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re: Disable Sidewalk Today

Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:31 am to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47482 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:31 am to
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Amazon’s latest faux improvement to its Alexa devices is called Sidewalk. Anybody who has an Alexa device is automatically enrolled. It shares your bandwidth with “neighbors” and some think also opens the door for unscrupulous hackers and data miners to peer more deeply into your personal information than ever.

It is being launched today. If you don’t want to participate, you must go into your Alexa app and disable it. Otherwise, you are an even more open book. Up to you. If you don’t do Alexa or Echo, just ignore this thread and move on.


I was talking to my telcom buddy this past weekend. He worked for Cox BR for 6 years(high $ networking shite, not installing cable. ).
He told me Cox does this already to everyone using those router/modem combos. They set aside bandwidth for this exact same thing.
That said, Cox is an ISP. I have Eatel and wouldn't really care if they did the same thing b/c I pay them for my internets.
But the likes of Roku, Amazon, Apple TV, etc have no business slicing up our bandwidth for their pet projects unless we WANT to participate.


TLDR It's not the security/privacy risk people think it is. But it's still frickin shady to do by default/withouth express permission.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by Tigear
Scotland
Member since Sep 2019
782 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:40 am to
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more>>settings>>accountsettings>>amazonsidewalk>>disable button


Thank you. Worked like a charm.

That said - if someone IS spying on me/my family = I feel terrible for them. It's bad enough that I have to listen to this crap. But, I guess it's cool for someone getting paid to listen to it.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:42 am to
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He told me Cox does this already to everyone using those router/modem combos.


Which is why you never use them as anything but a modem.

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36704 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:49 am to
Thanks ... my husband has it linked to his phone so I'll have him check BUT our daughter has an Alexa .. she needs to see about this!
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6169 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:53 am to
How about just stop using Amazon services?

It's really not hard.
frick Amazon.
Bezos and pals hate you.
Stop giving them business.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16307 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:54 am to
Remember who is really at fault, politicians. In Europe the laws are written that you need to "opt in" for a service where ours make you "opt out". You have to fix the rules to really address the issue.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22499 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:56 am to
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Don't have on my Alexa App. Wonder if it needs to be newer generation devices as my Alexa is a couple of years old.
If you have the Alexa app, Sidewalk is there. Doesnt matter which generation. Go thru the steps I laid out again. But maybe update your Alexa app if it needs that first.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 11:02 am
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2063 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:10 am to
Who in their right mind actively uses assis- oh wait, all of us with cell phones.


frick.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2063 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:11 am to
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Centinel



Don't you find it funny that almost everyone in IT just flat out refuses to use any home automation equipment outright lmao.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42279 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:19 am to
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Only an idiot would have one of those listening to them non stop

There’s nothing interesting to hear in my house, so it doesn’t bother me personally.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 11:21 am
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:22 am to
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you can limit access to an extent on phones. The least listening devices, the better. These smart speakers are only useful is you have them listening constantly. Phones you “can turn that off” and still be useful.


That might help, but you are still walking around with a microphone in your pocket.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:22 am to
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Don't you find it funny that almost everyone in IT just flat out refuses to use any home automation equipment outright lmao.



I have an Echo. I also was active duty military with a TS/SCI. The US government (and China) know everything there is to know about me, so not really worried.

I prefer the convenience of not having to get out of bed to turn off the lights when my wife falls asleep reading.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:36 am to
Here's a good article from SANS about Sidewalk. Turns out most of the hype is just that...hype. This article goes in to detail about what messaging protocols it uses, what access it has, etc.

SANS Internet Storm Center article
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9596 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:13 pm to
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but you are still walking around with a microphone in your pocket.
that is suppose to be turned off when phones sleeping. Amazon is always on
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9596 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:48 pm to
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There’s nothing interesting to hear in my house, so it doesn’t bother me personally.

sorry about your boring life
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3900 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:11 pm to
Showed up in mine just now. Turned that shite off with the quickness.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42279 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:10 pm to
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sorry about your boring life

It’s not boring, there just isn’t much said that Amazon or the government will find very interesting.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7314 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:12 pm to
Why do you want to keep young future entrepreneurs from fulfilling their potential using your bandwidth?
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:31 pm to
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He told me Cox does this already to everyone using those router/modem combos. They set aside bandwidth for this exact same thing.
That said, Cox is an ISP. I have Eatel and wouldn't really care if they did the same thing b/c I pay them for my internets.


I think the big difference here is that Eatel doesn't require a modem, whereas Cox does, so I would think Eatel would be less likely to do this?
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5135 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:34 pm to
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If you have the Alexa app, Sidewalk is there. Doesnt matter which generation. Go thru the steps I laid out again. But maybe update your Alexa app if it needs that first.


Its not for me and I have updated app. Thread on tech board is suggesting Ring or Alexa devices must be 2019 or more recent. Don't know
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