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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:58 pm to Overbrook
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If no one did anything wrong: no substances, no texting, no speeding, then the speed limit is too high.
That's just not true.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:16 pm to Redbone
I rode through the road today just to refresh myself on it. It has narrow shoulders all the way from one end to the other. It has a few drop offs to watch for but none near the culvert where they were fishing. The surface is pretty good with no problems where the accident happened. 55 is normal for roads like that one.
NOW, inspite of what others have said about being afraid to drive on that road I set my cruise control on 57 as soon as I left Perkins Road. I'm driving a pickup. I removed the sway bars right after I bought it. I was about 1/2 mile past the accident spot before I realized I had passed it up. I never needed to slow down under 57. I had to go back to examine the area better.
No highway problems from the direction of travel. I see you guys haven't come to a consensus as to whether the driver was texting or not but I read somewhere that she says someone ran her off of the road.
NOW, inspite of what others have said about being afraid to drive on that road I set my cruise control on 57 as soon as I left Perkins Road. I'm driving a pickup. I removed the sway bars right after I bought it. I was about 1/2 mile past the accident spot before I realized I had passed it up. I never needed to slow down under 57. I had to go back to examine the area better.
No highway problems from the direction of travel. I see you guys haven't come to a consensus as to whether the driver was texting or not but I read somewhere that she says someone ran her off of the road.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:56 pm to Redbone
If someone ran her off the road, she had a friend from work (the one who posted on the FB page of WAFB) traveling right behind her. Anyone running the Armada off the road would have had to have passed the friend first. I'm sure they've both told LSP all of this and provided at least a basic vehicle description.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 4:21 am to White Roach
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But the sheriff said speeding may not have been the issue in this case and state highway officials said the curve some are pointing to had warning signs in both directions. Wiley said Taylor, who was driving south, claimed she was trying to avoid oncoming vehicles that were driving around dump trucks stopped in the northbound lane of Bluff Road. “Troopers are looking into that as we speak,” Trooper Sandifer said. He added that whether Taylor was speeding is to be determined.
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 4:43 am to Will Cover
Good article. Thanks.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:36 am to Redbone
quote:had to go to BR early this morn so I took airline/bluff home. i paid a lil more attention to the shoulder. Looks like most of the dropoffs have been filled & smoothed out with asphalt. I totally agree with you. If there's something wrong with this road then every road in LA is terrible. And that's another argument all together, lol
I rode through the road today just to refresh myself on it. It has narrow shoulders all the way from one end to the other. It has a few drop offs to watch for but none near the culvert where they were fishing. The surface is pretty good with no problems where the accident happened. 55 is normal for roads like that one.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:26 am to Will Cover
A two lane, curvy highway should not have a 55 mph speed limit. Are there signs reducing speed in the curves (not that they would be followed, but...)?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:29 am to Redbone
Problem with the 55 mph limit are those that drive at 65 mph. Most drivers don't understand the reason for speed limits in a curve. I didn't know about it until I took physics about 30 years ago. That was a "no shite" moment.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:30 am to Isabelle
I can easily drive 55 down that road in good weather in my lifted truck. Speed limit isn't the problem.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:31 am to Isabelle
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A two lane, curvy highway should not have a 55 mph speed limit. Are there signs reducing speed in the curves (not that they would be followed, but...)?
Do you base that in anything besides your womanly instincts?
You're obviously not aware of this, but there is a science behind road design and factors of safety considered when assigning speed limits.
ETA: Sorry for my other post if you saw it. It was out of line.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 9:45 am
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:43 am to Isabelle
quote:Posted speed limits are often set 5-10mph lower than the design speeds of a particular segment of road for that very reason. That's not to say that it's safe to speed, only that the "idiot factor" is considered when designing roads, to a certain extent.
Problem with the 55 mph limit are those that drive at 65 mph.
quote:Except for extreme cases, it's not anything you'd learn in a physics class (like centripetal force). The key element is called "stopping sight distance", and it has to do with visual obstructions and the average person's ability to perceive and react to an impediment in the roadway.
Most drivers don't understand the reason for speed limits in a curve. I didn't know about it until I took physics about 30 years ago
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:51 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I can easily drive 55 down that road in good weather in my lifted truck. Speed limit isn't the problem.
Was down that road just last night. I was thinking
What if cars in the near future will receive posted speed limit data from an RFID on the signs and the car will not go over the posted speed limit unless you have two hands on the steering wheel? Technology for this is close right? Just an idea I had last night passing the scene of this accident. Would be relatively cheap and possibly effective safety measure on cars in next decade.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:08 pm to mikelbr
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Technology for this is close right?
I believe the technology is already there to control the computer by satellite. I've read that they can shut down computers that way. If so any map could have all speed limits programmed in and connected to computer. Computer could rat out car to Leo or even restrict auto speed.
10 mph over is usually allowed LEO.
I don't think any of this had any bearing on this accident. She simply ran off of road .... but why? Fell asleep, texting, some other vehicle ran her off the road, etc. Many possibilities.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:14 pm to Redbone
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10 mph over is usually allowed LEO. I don't think any of this had any bearing on this accident. She simply ran off of road .... but why? Fell asleep, texting, some other vehicle ran her off the road, etc. Many possibilities.
Right. I'm not suggesting the driver did anything wrong per se. I'm just thinking about how to encourage MORE focus when at higher speeds.
In my brainstorm last night I was thinking it would work like this: you're on the I-10 going 70 in 70, one hand on the wheel. You put both on and go 85. No big deal. Still America. FREEDOM!. But if you take a hand off, after 10 seconds or so, a beep goes off and the car slowly decelerates to 70 unless you put other hand back on. I think this would be cost-effective with modern tech. Sensors on wheel, rfid to receive speed limit info on the roadway. Not hard to do the rest with smart cruise control that exists now.
and hell it might lower insurance! Right!
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:25 pm to mikelbr
just curious, but did they ever release the name of the driver?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:32 pm to tigerinthebueche
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just curious, but did they ever release the name of the driver?
47-year-old Shawnette B. Taylor
Wasn't drunk or anything obviously distracting. Police still unsure of what if any charges will be filed.
I've drifted off that road a few times while working and admittedly looking at my gps at night. but managed to correct in my little car.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 1:08 pm to mikelbr
how about failure to maintain control?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 1:15 pm to bigrob385series
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how about failure to maintain control?
Isn't that or reckless operation a given when LSP responds to an at-fault accident?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:10 pm to mikelbr
Not sure if this has been posted but, just saw an interview with the mom on WAFB and she said her husband is still in the hospital and doesn't know that his two children died in the accident. She said that it's going to be hard to tell him when he gets out of the hospital and asks where the two children are... Wow. The entire tragedy is so sad
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 6:12 pm
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