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re: Did It All Start with the Hippies?
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:42 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:42 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Best I can figure the Vietnam war owns a lot of current situation; by and large fueled the Hippies. As much as I hate Hippies they were right about a lot of things Vietnam.
MIC killed so many young promising men. What they didn’t kill they returned maimed or with debilitating addictions and rejection. Lots of broken families which gave us the music of the early 90s rock/grunge and 2nd gen addiction.
Hippies were the dangerous counter culture unintended consequence. They’ve all changed their stripes to be lock-step with the government (covid), and have turned into MIC cheerleaders (Ukraine). It really is the most puzzling thing.
Oh yeah and the MIC freakin murdered JFK.
MIC killed so many young promising men. What they didn’t kill they returned maimed or with debilitating addictions and rejection. Lots of broken families which gave us the music of the early 90s rock/grunge and 2nd gen addiction.
Hippies were the dangerous counter culture unintended consequence. They’ve all changed their stripes to be lock-step with the government (covid), and have turned into MIC cheerleaders (Ukraine). It really is the most puzzling thing.
Oh yeah and the MIC freakin murdered JFK.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:43 pm to OweO
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I'll also add 24 hr news channels.
What are the ratings of the top 3 24-hour news channels combined, and what is the population of this country?
Spoiler alert: The vast majority of this country does not watch that bullshite, and the most of the few who do are just hate-watching, they know it's mostly bullshite.
24 hour news didn't do this. It's a symptom of a much bigger problem, in my opinion.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:44 pm to SaintlyTiger88
The hippies were just meat heads, a bunch of lost sponges without any rudder or navigation to keep them on course. Those who used them and their condition are the real culprits. Norman Lear, Timothy Leary, but most importantly the infiltration of academia by flat out marxists pumping their divisional garbage into the moldable brains of people who have no direction or standard they live by.
When America abandoned their judeo christian morality and kicked God out of our institutions, another much more devious but also quite secular religious morality took it’s place, and they are as vigilant and sold out to their secular religion as any religious person is. One has to exist. You’re either going to serve God and His morality, or you will serve man and his ever changing immorality. We chose, and here we are.
When America abandoned their judeo christian morality and kicked God out of our institutions, another much more devious but also quite secular religious morality took it’s place, and they are as vigilant and sold out to their secular religion as any religious person is. One has to exist. You’re either going to serve God and His morality, or you will serve man and his ever changing immorality. We chose, and here we are.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:50 pm to Rust Cohle
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But you can trace change back to the new phenomenon of youth culture in the 20s, postmodernism, Age of Enlightenment, Martin Luther’s reformation and the printing press, the Catholic Church. It’s all connected, and a part of modernity, the good and the bad.
Coming off of the progressive Woodrow Wilson
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:49 pm to SaintlyTiger88
In some regards yes, but I feel like the message that the group your speaking of now is much different. The 1960s counter culture movement of course had its pissed off extremists, but much of it was based on rebellion against society’s expectations and doing what makes you happy (for better or for worse). Now it’s gotten to the point where weird arse people have a platform to spew their bs because of social media and they have created a “conform or be punished” mentality which is extremely fricked up. They are only accepting of people that conform to their agenda. You don’t hear any of the modern “hippies” talking about peace and love like the 60s hippies.
Another aspect that might be a controversial take on my part (though as someone who works in this field I can attest to this) is the fact that America has shat the bed repeatedly with the way it has handled mental healthcare for over 100 years.
Another aspect that might be a controversial take on my part (though as someone who works in this field I can attest to this) is the fact that America has shat the bed repeatedly with the way it has handled mental healthcare for over 100 years.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:09 am to lsudave1
A lot of accurate comments in this thread that pinpoint roots much older than hippies.
1) John Kerry does remind me of one the few big mouth, underground, malcontent radicals we had on campus in the early 70s.
2) Beatniks were the free spirited malcontents that preceded the hippies. Were Bohemians the precedents to the Beatniks?
3) Weren't biker gangs originally antisocial malcontents that sprang from WW2 vets?
1) John Kerry does remind me of one the few big mouth, underground, malcontent radicals we had on campus in the early 70s.
2) Beatniks were the free spirited malcontents that preceded the hippies. Were Bohemians the precedents to the Beatniks?
3) Weren't biker gangs originally antisocial malcontents that sprang from WW2 vets?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:19 am to SaintlyTiger88
quote:this is your complaint :smh:
If someone was “different”, they kept it hidden.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 4:26 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:46 am to SaintlyTiger88
The larger the government got….
The worse it has become for the average citizen.
Direct correlation
The worse it has become for the average citizen.
Direct correlation
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:51 am to SaintlyTiger88
You're giving the hippies too much credit or blame. The were few and on the fringes of society.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:24 am to SaintlyTiger88
The beatnik movement was before the hippies. That to me is the beginning of the ORGANIZED liberal movements. Hippies were the natural evolution of the beatniks
What we have now is unnatural, the DNC inspired, bred, and fostered the liberal movements beginning with the last hippies and have guided it into the current racist, self centered, “gimme” culture that blames everything else for failure except the liberal themselves.
What we have now is unnatural, the DNC inspired, bred, and fostered the liberal movements beginning with the last hippies and have guided it into the current racist, self centered, “gimme” culture that blames everything else for failure except the liberal themselves.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:37 am to SaintlyTiger88
It all started in the 40's when we started letting Soviet refugees in. A few spies got through and that's when they started spreading their propaganda.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:59 am to SaintlyTiger88
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Did It All Start with the Hippies?
No,
LBJ started it.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:16 am to ChiTownBammer
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We should have kept heading east instead of basically stopping in Germany.
East to say that 75 years hence, few had an appetite to continue WWII.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:23 am to SaintlyTiger88
quote:the internet
30-40 years ago, you didn’t see all the “trans” movement you see now. Where did this come from?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:35 am to SaintlyTiger88
The hippie movement was not a spontaneous awakening of young people who all simply wanted to grow their hair long, not bathe, and smoke dope. Instead it was a process of political indoctrination that stayed on college campuses, driven by old radical leftist professors, who themselves had been indoctrinated by Marxist ideologies in the 1930s and 40s.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:53 am to SaintlyTiger88
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If someone was “different”, they kept it hidden. It wasn’t out in the open and wasn’t celebrated.
Well that was kind of the point. People eventually get tired of feeling like they have to live in the shadows to the point they get fed up, lose their minds and swing the pendulum to the other ridiculous extreme.
You will always have people outside of whatever is considered “the norm”, and the solution isn’t suppression (implied or explicit) unless you enjoy constant civil unrest dotted with occasional armed conflict.
The answer actually is inclusion (the only thing the DEI mob kind of has right) but not the limitless “everyone is the same” nonsense that DEI is peddling. Inclusion has to be bound by an adherence to a higher cultural/moral order and we simply don’t have that as a country. It’s like, look man, if you’re sexually attracted to other men, whatever. But you’re still a man and are expected to act like one. There have to be concepts we can’t deviate from and we all need to be clear on why. But at the same time we can’t be so rigid to marginalize people for no good reason.
The erosion of Judeo-Christian values and a sense of national pride has left us in a place where every life choice and way of being is just as “acceptable” as any other because we’re not moored to any higher order concepts and ideals. We fix that and we can right the ship. That’s how we make America great again.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:56 am to SaintlyTiger88
But, the hippie chicks loved to bang.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:57 am to SaintlyTiger88
Hippies were anti-establishment. The modern left are pro-establishment, big government socialists.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:59 am to SaintlyTiger88
Hippies are good people.
Wealthy kids wearing tie die shirts arent hippies. One reason the movement failed in the 60s and 70s is the college kids who jumped on the fad.
Hippies are free thinkers, not Democrats.
Wealthy kids wearing tie die shirts arent hippies. One reason the movement failed in the 60s and 70s is the college kids who jumped on the fad.
Hippies are free thinkers, not Democrats.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:00 am to Achilles Hill
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The larger the government got….
The worse it has become for the average citizen.
For me and my generation the benchmark is 9/11.
That was when the government found out that the public would give up big chunks of freedoms if the message was right.
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