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re: DHS funded non-profit demands ‘GamerGate 2’ be denounced by video game studios

Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:16 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:16 am to
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This was a result of their “work” on Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League. Apparently having the Suicide Squad urinate on The Flash, and Harley Quinn executing Batman were just a bit too much for the gaming community. Sweet Baby Inc deserves everything they’re getting. They’ve been running the DEI grift for years.

While I categorically oppose public funding for this kind of initiative, I'm ambivalent on this kind of private consulting. For me, it just depends on purpose and the amount of power and deference granted to the consultant. As an example, I have no issue with, and would heavily suggest if I were a stakeholder, that a game dev might bring on a private consultant saying "hey, give this a read and make sure we aren't going to accidentally step into a giant shite storm because of some offhand comment being construed in a way we didn't expect.". On the other hand, if it's more along the lines of "here's our finished story, please inject irrelevant characters and storylines so we can check more boxes", then it's a cancer.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:17 am to
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Ah, the global conspiracy known as GAMERGATE.

Many years ago Steve Bannon launched a harassment campaign against games journalists since they are the first line of defense against hate, bigotry, and extremism. This was done to pave the way for Trump’s presidential victory in 2016.

GAMERGATE still exists today as a digital genocide of women and marginalized groups, but has often spilled over to the real world in numerous mass casualty events.

There are people that actually make these types of claims.

This is a really, really bizarre fantasy tangent
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:16 am to
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Anyone translate this into non-nerd?


Sweet Baby Inc. is a game studio that contracts with larger developers to help build out their games. They’ve made a niche in the market as a “story consultant”. They’re run by a hyper partisan woke Twitter warrior who uses their position to dox and shame people who question them.

Sweet Baby is responsible for taking popular games and making them “woke”: making female characters less attractive and more covered up, emasculating pre-existing male characters, gender and race swapping characters, etc. Every game they touch tends to turn into a buggy mess, to boot. However, their ESG and diversity scores are high and they have an incestuous relationship with gaming media, so they have carved out a niche.

Sweet Baby blew up into the public consciousness thanks to 3 things:
1. The Brazilian man who published a list of all the games they worked on to steam.
2. The disastrous release of the Death of Justice League game which they worked on heavily.
3. FFVII: Rebirth’s recent patch that added an undershirt to a female character’s costume, essentially censoring her cleavage which was visible in demos and trailers. Sweet Baby was involved in this patch.

Basically, the gaming industry has been under as intense scrutiny from gamers as the movie industry since Covid as Triple A gaming studios have released buggy, broken games, purposely uglied up pre-existing female characters (Horizon Forbidden West), put out empty games at full price and then charged micro transactions to make them playable, etc. Gamers are sick of being lied to, and it turns out that SweetBaby just so happens to have worked on every egregious example of a game essentially hating its consumers.

The original gamer gate called out how a female developer was weaponizing her sexuality and cancel culture to influence how her games were scored. It showed collusion between “woke” developers and media to rig the industry against primary consumers. It was framed as “white wing misogynist backlash” against women. Sweet Baby is essentially a left-wing agitprop group disguised as a game studio that appears to have serious backing within not only media but the U.S. government. It’s almost like the CIA is controlling the video game industry to push the same evil message as all other media…
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:25 am to
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Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25913 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:32 am to
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Something Sarkeesian. She was that 40 year old who did the wedding themed birthday party.


Wait…she was? That was the same chick? Wild!
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32392 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:24 am to
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Great synopsis.

I recognized one of the Gamer Gate 1.0 names from a news story last week. Something Sarkeesian. She was that 40 year old who did the wedding themed birthday party.



right. i knew i recognized the name, mainly because it associates to the Texas Coach, but it took me a minute to figure out where i heard of her.

A lot of people consider GamerGate the zeitgeist of the modern culture war (Bud Light, Disney, etc.) It was pretty small and in a very particular bubble but it was a pretty big deal for gaming community.

a bad game got good reviews because the developer started cheating on her boyfriend with the right people to get it pushed and when it got called out, it became misogyny or some such garbage.

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39254 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:34 am to
These fricking leftist freaks just spread their filth into every possible facet of their lives, whether it fits or not.

Like, I could see one going to AA and trying to marximize and woke the whole process, and of course destroying it.

It’s got to be a deliberate attempt at destruction and anarchy, at least at the higher levels.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:37 am to
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I have no idea whats going on here even after reading the article

It was like talking to a chicken or a really imaginative toddler.
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:21 pm to
Here's an X post that has the Brazilian guy explaining things.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87347 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:26 pm to
I still don't understand Gamer Gate 1 and I've tried to read about it a dozen times
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:32 pm to
I read through that and some of the replies and this dude seems to know what he's talking about and this may summarize some of the theme most succinctly:

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It's not a left wing movement, really - I mean, it is and it isn't. The money that are used, are used because of ideology that is clearly associated with self-identifying left wing parties and movements present throughout europe and the US over the past 50 years.

But the money comes from the wealthy people who believe in these ideologies.

And the point is, these wealthy people are not trying to score maximum dividends. Instead, they are trying to score maximum cultural influence. And that means, they look at the dividend ratio - a normal investor might be looking for 10-15% - and they say, nah, I can take a _loss_ of 10% of my investment and I'm fine, because I can get a _lot_ of cultural influence over this project for a million bucks, and it's a 10 million dollar investment I'm making, so a 10% loss is fine.

And the game company chief financial officer is like,
"
I can get a 10 million dollar investment, and all I have to do is spend 200 man-hours putting in some propaganda that probably won't affect sales? And get an external consultant firm 25,000 bucks to vet it?

And this money lets me de-leverage, so our company can actually survive even if the game isn't a hit ?

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150131 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:33 pm to
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It’s almost like the CIA is controlling the video game industry to push the same evil message as all other media…
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48389 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:45 pm to
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These fricking leftist freaks just spread their filth into every possible facet of their lives, whether it fits or not.

Like, I could see one going to AA and trying to marximize and woke the whole process, and of course destroying it.

It’s got to be a deliberate attempt at destruction and anarchy, at least at the higher levels.


Cloward-Piven Strategy at work
Posted by Das Jackal
Da Bayou
Member since Sep 2011
2653 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:30 pm to
Seems like the CEO and most people working at Sweet Baby Inc didn't care for whitey too much judging by their former tweets
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15495 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:42 pm to
Someone may have already mentioned it in the thread, but the CEO is on record saying essentially that if the company you work for doesn't want their game to be inclusive, "terrify them with what's about to happen if they don't give you what you want."

CEO
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 2:49 pm
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