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re: Designing my Outlaw Pinewood Derby car.

Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:38 pm to
That extremely cool, but if you have a wife she's gonna be pissed when she has to dry her hair with your car.
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:38 pm to
Gotta get that Graphite powder for the Axles baw
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3153 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:39 pm to
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Bending and polishing the axles, wall riding and weight placement are where the money is at...



Yes... I know this. I've built dozens of these f'n cars over the last 8 years or so for my kids... And they're not aftermarket when you do it yourself, right? Plus, limited gains is what makes a winning car.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91436 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:40 pm to
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Bending and polishing the axles,

our scout troop checked each car to ensure all 4 wheels touched FULLY and there was no camber action going on. if only 3 touched or they ran on the edges or the wheels had been filed down, it was disqualified

eta polishing the nails and sanding wheels is ok
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 4:42 pm
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3153 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

our scout troop checked each car to ensure all 4 wheels touched FULLY and there was no camber action going on. if only 3 touched or they ran on the edges or the wheels had been filed down, it was disqualified



That sucks. Ours allows one bent axle and one wheel can be off the ground for rail riding. The rear axles can't be cambered though.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16540 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

our scout troop checked each car to ensure all 4 wheels touched FULLY and there was no camber action going on. if only 3 touched or they ran on the edges or the wheels had been filed down, it was disqualified eta polishing the nails and sanding wheels is ok


Lame
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91436 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:47 pm to
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our scout troop checked each car to ensure all 4 wheels touched FULLY and there was no camber action going on. if only 3 touched or they ran on the edges or the wheels had been filed down, it was disqualified eta polishing the nails and sanding wheels is ok



Lame


i dont think so. trying to keep things as fair as possible for the KIDS (remember them?) not some adult nasa engineer wanna-be who is "bending" the rules to get an unfair advantage

axle polishing, weight distribution strategies, sanding the wheels, stuff like that is fine..but doing weird shite by cutting your wheels down, cambering them and having one up in the air to drag the line is just wrong.

go play with the other adults in their race.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16540 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 5:08 pm to
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fair as possible for the KIDS (remember them?) not some adult nasa engineer wanna-be who is "bending" the rules to get an unfair advantage axle polishing, weight distribution strategies, sanding the wheels, stuff like that is fine..but doing weird shite by cutting your wheels down, cambering them and having one up in the air to drag the line is just wrong. go play with the other adults in their race.


I haven't raced since I was in the scouts myself decades ago. Never raced as an adult. All these modifications don't need a NASA engineer and can be done in under an hour by kids. You don't need some crazy shaped aero car. A simple wedge has completed with the best of them. Sanding down the wheels is more work than the axle stuff. At least do wall riding, gets rid of a lot of track advantage stuff if everyone isn't bumping around all over their lane.

This sounds more like lazy dads not wanting to get shown up by dads who get heavily involved...
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 5:12 pm
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6290 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 5:28 pm to
OP, this is cheaper:

Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4233 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 5:41 pm to
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we always have a few creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy adults that show up who don't have kids in scouts to race cars they build in the 'adult only' race.

watching these guys jump up and down while racing other creeps seriously gives me the heebies


I've never been to one of these so I have no idea what to expect. This is my son's first year in scouting and I volunteered to be the Den leader so I get a free kit to build my own outlaw racer. Maybe someone else will show up with CO2 or rocket power and show up my ducted fan

Going to build a 3 cell LiPo pack to up my voltage to 11v.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30937 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 5:45 pm to
Moonshine rocket..only good answer,google rocket city rednecks.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 6:52 pm to
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more than adequate to defeat all of the gravity powered cars I will go up agains


LOL...you think you'll be the only one with propulsion?
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4385 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 8:03 pm to
Our outlaw race didnt allow propulsion. Ran a 5 pound pinewood derby bus made from the original pwd kit (block, axles tires) as required by the rules. (I'm no NASA engineer, or an engineer at all). Won by like 3 car lengths. Beep beep.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91436 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 8:09 pm to
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This sounds more like lazy dads not wanting to get shown up by dads who get heavily involved...
wait who is racing again?
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:04 pm to
Never heard the term pinewood derby in my life, but you need a brushless motor and a LIPO battery and 4wd.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:19 pm to
Polish the axles and flare the first inside of the nail heads. Make sure your wheels are true.
I wonder if your fan will add more drag that it gives propulsion.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20846 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:27 pm to
Celebrity guest at the derby this year: Mr. Wonder!

Returning to Louisiana for a special engagement.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16540 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:43 am to
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wait who is racing again?


You know it's just a bunch of dads building that shite
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4233 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:22 am to
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You know it's just a bunch of dads building that shite


I let my son do as much work as possible but I don't want my 7yo son using my band saw. He did design it and sanded it and helped polish the axles.
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