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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:55 am to Lou Pai
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:55 am to Lou Pai
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you were to sum IQ points + minutes spent reviewing the case, Peej is really neck and neck with Sleepy Joe IMO.
And neither is going to hit triple digits..
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:56 am to Lou Pai
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:57 am to Roughneck2020
quote:He'd never go to the mainline.
I just hope if he is found guilty of anything that he gets to stay out on bail pending appeal. If he has to spend more than a week in jail, it will be a death sentence. An inmate will get a lot of street cred from being the one who shived Chauvin.
If he would have actually done something illegal, he'd go to a SNY or AdSeg or PC straight away.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:57 am to dukke v
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What I’m trying to say is that Floyd (just like anyone else arrested) should have just gotten the vehicle.... why did the cops even give him a choice?????
They were following their training.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:05 pm to SOSFAN
SOS.. Do you think anything happens to Maurice Hall? Regardless of the verdict...
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:08 pm to JDPndahizzy
Nope I think he skates out of any charges to do with Floyd. It was the main reason for him not testify however, he has other charges not associated with this case that they very well may use to hurt him.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:09 pm to danilo
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No really expected time frame for a verdict? Couple be any second or could be days?
About 30 minutes before the rioting starts.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:11 pm to SOSFAN
quote:This.
Nope I think he skates out of any charges to do with Floyd.
If anyone thinks Ellison is eager to point his racist finger at anyone other than DC then they're insane.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:14 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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If anyone thinks Ellison is eager to point his racist finger at anyone other than DC then they're insane.
Agreed. Just not fair..
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:15 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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anyone thinks Ellison is eager to point his racist finger at anyone other than DC then they're insane.
They would never do anything that makes it look like they were wrong and I agree throwing a black drug dealer to the wolves wouldn't be acceptable.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:18 pm to JDPndahizzy
quote:Exactly right. DC should never have needed to stand trial.
Agreed. Just not fair..
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:24 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
I have no legal knowledge but predict that Chauvin will be convicted of a second degree manslaughter but not guilty on remaining charges.
He will serve a little bit of time - similar to the Amber Guyger case with Botham Jean.
He will serve a little bit of time - similar to the Amber Guyger case with Botham Jean.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:30 pm to BeYou
quote:Would you, as a juror, be satisfied that every element of the crime was satisfied?
I...predict that Chauvin will be convicted of a second degree manslaughter but not guilty on remaining charges.
LINK ]Here's the statute.
Subdivision 1 doesn't apply because they didn't prove intent and it wasn't a drive-by shooting.
Subdivision 2 doesn't apply because I don't think DC was in the process of committing a felony nor did the felon have an order of protection out against DC.
But I'm willing to alter my position.
EDIT: Wrong statute. My bad. I left it unchanged for transparency's sake.
EDIT: LINK ]Here's the right statute.The only clause that is in play is (1), and since the knee was on the felon's back as he lay there dying from his third overdose in a few months I don't see it sticking.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:34 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
Not sure what the correct term is but its the opposite of jury nullification. And its a shame.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:35 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
609.205 MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
A person who causes the death of another by any of the following means is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both:
(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another;
This is what they'll stick him with.. IMO
A person who causes the death of another by any of the following means is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both:
(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another;
This is what they'll stick him with.. IMO
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:38 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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If anyone thinks Ellison is eager to point his racist finger at anyone other than DC then they're insane.
I think Ellison deliberately overcharged him with 2nd degree murder so cities would burn. Thank God someone had enough sense to charge him with 2nd degree manslaughter since I really think there’s no way anyone with any moral conviction would convict someone of 2nd degree murder.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:38 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Abraham H Parnassis
Oh from what I've seen of the trial - I'd find him not guilty of all charges. I think defense has raised reasonable doubt that GF's death was a culmination of factors not because of Chauvin's knee to neck/upper back.
I predict though that the jury will try to strike a middle ground to make everyone happy.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:39 pm to JDPndahizzy
He may even deserve that, too, tbh. The weakest defense presented so far was the “hostile environment” that prevented rendering of aid.
I wouldn’t be morally upset with a manslaughter 2 conviction nor an acquittal.
Any of the murder convictions would be a travesty.
I wouldn’t be morally upset with a manslaughter 2 conviction nor an acquittal.
Any of the murder convictions would be a travesty.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:39 pm to JDPndahizzy
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This is what they'll stick him with.. IMO
Agreed. I didn't watch a single second of the trial though, just basing it off the video of the incident. I thought all along murder was too high a bar for the prosecution to clear.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:42 pm to The Spleen
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Agreed. I didn't watch a single second of the trial though, just basing it off the video of the incident.
You missed a lot of relevant information then
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