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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:38 am to KemoSabe65
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:38 am to KemoSabe65
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Has it been asked who is paying for Chauvin defense? Shouldn't the union be fronting the cost?
The union has a legal defense fund of a rotation of 12 attorneys that is selected. Nelson wasnt the first for Chauvin; the first had to bow out due to medical issues.
Nelson's background is quite impressive; at one point he was ranked one of the top 10 criminal defense attorneys in the country.
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:39 am to BearCrocs
quote:Yep. Police Benevolent Fund.
Police union. I think to the tune of 1M or so.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:40 am to BearCrocs
CourtTV is LOVING this witness.
"This is the witness the prosecution needs..."
But she did say "wait for cross."
"This is the witness the prosecution needs..."
But she did say "wait for cross."
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:44 am to TigerCop89
The prosecution is handling this witness like all the others - focusing solely on the restraint, and only the restraint. Not totality of the environment of what was going on including the drugs, the crowd, etc. The cross is going to be interesting.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:47 am to JodyPlauche
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CourtTV is LOVING this witness.
"This is the witness the prosecution needs..."
But she did say "wait for cross."
They aren't wrong. This is easily the best witness for the State so far. It's not even close to how much better he is than every other one. But, yes, we need to wait for the cross to see how he acts. Nelson will go heavy on the drug use and that a lot of the analysis so far seems to stem from brief moments and not the full amount of time Chauvin was on top of Floyd. Will be interesting.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:49 am to BradBallard
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The prosecution is handling this witness like all the others - focusing solely on the restraint, and only the restraint.
They have no case if they veer away from the restraint. They have to hyperfocus on it; once all the other factors come in their case crumbles.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:55 am to TigerCop89
Is this guy a pirate? WTF is this accent?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:56 am to arseinclarse
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Is this guy a pirate? WTF is this accent?
He's Irish and said so at the beginning.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:56 am to RLDSC FAN
Look at the evidence. The video. Floyd had drugs on his person. In one frame you can see a white packet of drugs falling out of his pants pocket as he sits handcuffed against the building.
He ingested drugs....including some Fentanyl. That's what killed him.
But that still won't stop this shiteshow. Who on earth would ever want to pursue a career in law enforcement when courts, liberal DA's and juries are throwing cops under the bus?
He ingested drugs....including some Fentanyl. That's what killed him.
But that still won't stop this shiteshow. Who on earth would ever want to pursue a career in law enforcement when courts, liberal DA's and juries are throwing cops under the bus?
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 11:00 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:57 am to arseinclarse
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Is this guy a pirate? WTF is this accent?
He is an Irishman.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:01 am to BearCrocs
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so at the beginning.
I'm just joining.
That's aint Irish
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:02 am to ThuperThumpin
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He ingested drugs....including some Fentanyl. That's what killed him.
Don't have to prove that. He's innocent until proven guilty.
This is a good witness as to how he stopped breathing but not necessarily WHY he stopped breathing. Cross is going to be super key.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:02 am to ThuperThumpin
This doctor calculated Floyd's lung volume by his age, sex, and height but didn't take into account that his lungs were enlarged. Now, I'm not a pulmonologist but it seems like that would be important.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:06 am to MFn GIMP
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This doctor calculated Floyd's lung volume by his age, sex, and height but didn't take into account that his lungs were enlarged. Now, I'm not a pulmonologist but it seems like that would be important
Good point. It has already been proven that GF's lungs were full of fluid etc., typical of heavy drug use/overdose. So with that in mind, this graphic does not represent GF's lungs.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:06 am to MFn GIMP
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but didn't take into account that his lungs were enlarged.
What is this referring to?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:10 am to Yellerhammer5
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What is this referring to?
I cant remember who, (maybe the Prosecutor's witness that was a resident MD who treated GF when they brought him in) but it has been stated that GF's lungs were enlarged, heavy and full of fluid as a result of heavy drug use, health issues, etc.
This irishman's testimony is based on a normal healthy person of GF's age. Defense better catch this.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:17 am to BearCrocs
quote:I have no doubt Nelson will catch that. Hell, the forensic doc on HLN has been pointing that out for the last 3 days. You'd better believe Nelson has his own expert doc on standby to refute this nonsense.
This irishman's testimony is based on a normal healthy person of GF's age. Defense better catch this.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:17 am to BearCrocs
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but it has been stated that GF's lungs were enlarged, heavy and full of fluid as a result of heavy drug use, health issues, etc
If you’re referring to lung weight, that’s not enlargement. It’s edema and congestion. Lungs can hyperinflate when air is trapped, such as in asthma, but that wouldn’t change his estimated numbers. I’m sure that the defense will bring up the lung weights on cross examination along with the effects of fentanyl. The expert will probably say something along the lines of that he thinks the congestion and edema occurred during or after the incident.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 11:18 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:21 am to Yellerhammer5
quote:GF claimed he couldn't breathe in the cop car before the incident.
The expert will probably say something along the lines of that he thinks the congestion and edema occurred during or after the incident.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:22 am to RT1941
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GF claimed he couldn't breathe in the cop car before the incident.
I’m sure that’ll come out during the cross.
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