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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23442 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:11 pm to
Never heard about this part of the story. Pretty sad.

Couple tried to help her before she died
Posted by clip11
Member since Feb 2023
205 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:31 pm to
So how much time do you think they will get? I doubt that Kaivon will beat all 3 charges. And I got a feeling that Desmond isn't going to just be home free.
Posted by DVA Tailgater
Bunkie
Member since Jan 2011
3423 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

So how much time do you think they will get?


In the place where it matters, eternity.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:33 pm to
I looked for an update and this was the only thing I could find. Some law failed to pass..

Anyone heard anything regarding the suspects?

quote:

Legislation in response to the death of 19-year-old LSU student Madison Brooks fails to get out of the House Judiciary Committee. The Senate-approved bill would hold bars liable if an underage person consumes alcohol at their establishment and then injures themselves or others. Shreveport Representative Alan Seabaugh voted against the measure because it protects a person who breaks the law.

“The minor who knew they did something wrong, has a drink, leaves, either injures themself or injures somebody else and they are not responsible, but the bar owner is, who didn’t know he was doing nothing wrong, I have a real problem with that,” said Seabaugh.


Law fails to pass
Posted by warlock1974
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:45 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 5:47 pm
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10889 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:07 pm to
WRBZ article just released.
Claims the BAC was 12% lower than expected and that the dna of the 4 arrested was not found inside her. Dna of one of them was found on outside of her genital area.

Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9585 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:13 pm to
12% lower is still high. It’s just less likely to be life threatening making their actions of not getting her home even dumber especially for those not having last name of Washington.

The rape being wrong doesn’t change, and Washington’s dna still found in genital area along with injuries on her back side suspicious of assault but that “the separate lab report said there was insufficient male DNA present and no indication of when an assault might have occurred.”

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The East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Office, which sought the charges against the four men, said in the days after Brooks' death that the woman had a blood alcohol level of .319 percent, or four times the legal limit to drive a car, at the time she died. The coroner's office final toxicology results fixed the BAC at .282 percent, still well above the legal limit to drive and extremely intoxicated.

The National Institutes of Health says BACs above .31 percent can be life-threatening; those from .16 to .3 indicate severe impairment.


Did defense leak this?
quote:

Moore sent the following statement Wednesday afternoon:

Although I do not know your source of information, the facts are that my office provided many items of discovery as obligated by law, in this case yesterday to three law offices representing these defendants. These documents were not placed in the public record but only given to these offices. We will continue to abide by our discovery obligations and file these matters with the court. The discovery that was provided as “read only”. It is obvious from the audit trail who received and viewed what evidence and how many times such was viewed. The source will be obvious. We have never provided any discovery to the media and we will continue to not try this case in the media but in the court in the best interest of all parties involved.
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 7:35 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44882 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:06 pm to
Nakomoto is scum for writing up that article with that title.

So it’s some big revelation and now she can obviously consent since it was “only” a BAC of .28?


I wonder why he emphasized “vaginal” and didn’t mention anal? Hmmmm
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 8:07 pm
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1644 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:24 pm to
So if we are to believe that EBRSO blood alcohol test is off that much, shouldn’t that call into question the validity of the other BAC tests they have performed?

Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

dna of the 4 arrested was not found inside her


Who cares the 2 guys admitted to having sex with her?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120259 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

Nakomoto is scum for writing up that article with that title.


Its not the only reason he is scum.. But I get your point.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53133 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

Nakomoto is scum for writing up that article with that title.


He’s definitely a POS
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

The coroner's office final toxicology results fixed the BAC at .282 percent, still well above the legal limit to drive and extremely intoxicated.


Will have to see the evidence as it’s presented, but seems reasonable that the blood taken at hospital will have a higher BAC than the coroner’s autopsy BAC. I imagine that measures BAC at time of death which was several hours after arrival at the hospital.

This probably isn’t the gotcha the defense is trying to make it out to be.
Posted by GRIZZ
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
5986 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

wonder why he emphasized “vaginal” and didn’t mention anal




According to the DNA results from the Louisiana State Police Crime Laboratory, material gathered from 13 swabs and two washings resulted in insufficient male DNA samples from the vaginal, cervical, anal and perineal areas
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44882 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:00 pm to
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According to the DNA results from the Louisiana State Police Crime Laboratory, material gathered from 13 swabs and two washings resulted in insufficient male DNA samples from the vaginal, cervical, anal and perineal areas


Well then…. I guess it is too bad that Washington already admitted it
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86193 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

The National Institutes of Health says BACs above .31 percent can be life-threatening; those from .16 to .3 indicate severe impairment.


Yeah so over that amount can be .6
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9585 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

quote:

According to the DNA results from the Louisiana State Police Crime Laboratory, material gathered from 13 swabs and two washings resulted in insufficient male DNA samples from the vaginal, cervical, anal and perineal areas



Well then…. I guess it is too bad that Washington already admitted it


The quote left off a big part about Washington. The rest of samples were insufficient (wearing condoms or pulling out).

quote:

According to the DNA results from the Louisiana State Police Crime Laboratory, material gathered from 13 swabs and two washings resulted in insufficient male DNA samples from the vaginal, cervical, anal and perineal areas. A swab of external genitalia revealed DNA that could have come from Washington, but none of the others.

Lab report still mentions signs of assault to her backside noted in autopsy, but just includes insufficient male DNA present and no indication on when assault might have occurred. The forensic pathologist who did autopsy may have different theory on when assault occurred.


I forgot about her organs being donated and kept on life support for awhile.
quote:

A rape kit was completed after the woman died, and that occurred after her organs were harvested for possible transplant.

Posted by GRIZZ
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
5986 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

A rape kit was completed after the woman died, and that occurred after her organs were harvested for possible transplant


I’ve been involved in several organ harvesting cases. I can assure you, the rape kit was performed in the ED before she was taking to surgery.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

I’ve been involved in several organ harvesting cases. I can assure you, the rape kit was performed in the ED before she was taking to surgery.


The article says it was performed after her death and after her organs were harvested.

This makes sense given here, at the time she was brought to the hospital and into surgery, all anyone knew was that she was drunk and hit by a car. It wasn’t until later (probably well after attempting surgery) they figured out she was with dudes, raped, and left for dead.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20178 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 11:59 pm to
Question: how does a BAC get changed?

Are we talking a decimal error? Wrong process used? Timing - different tests ran at different times? Or some judgment call?

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