re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Lots of third hand accounting in this interview. The entire thing rings of race baiting. I hope it goes to trial and they are able to move the case to another jurisdiction. These "reporters" are completely chumming the waters.

In addition. It can also be true that when the video was taken, all was fine. AND moments later she was still raped. They harp on her not being held against will. Until she was.

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Does this only apply when rape is involved?

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If 4 chicks picked up a drunk dude and ripped his a-hole while he was unconscious, I'd hope that charges were brought about the 4 women.

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As coarse and as crude as that sounds, it’s true. SHE chose to go out. SHE chose to drink. SHE chose to keep drinking until it got to the point where she had no clue what was going on.
.. All you can do is learn from their “mistakes” and try to avoid a similar situation. Because bad people exist and while it’s totally their fault and they should be punished, consequences affect all parties.

Unfortunately teenagers are notorious for thinking they are bulletproof. No matter how well you have raised them or how often you badger them about alcohol safety. And many times, its kids from sheltered backgrounds, safe schools and communities. College is their first experience of the real world (and BATON ROUGE no less) and danger is just theoretical to them. I have a student at LSU now who very much matches this description.

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How did she get her destination address wrong 3 times if she is coherent? That's a pretty simple question that will be very hard to answer alone.

Then add the BAC, the perps' words, potentially other videos showing her stumbling and whatnot (haven't seen those, so I say potentially for now), I think it's going to be hard to make the claim she was in her right state of mind.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, couldn’t they claim that she was “drunk drunk” in the bar (backed up by video of her stumbling), then she didn’t drink for the last hour she was there (according to the statement from Reggie’s) and sobered up. That’s when she left with the guys, had sex and started drinking again after. She then said she wanted to be taken to a friends house. She couldn’t remember the exact address, which led to arguments and her eventually telling them to let her out.

These are the types of scenarios their lawyer will come up with to defend them.

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If 4 chicks picked up a drunk dude and ripped his a-hole while he was unconscious, I'd hope that charges were brought about the 4 women.

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Our society, IDK if there is law also, seems to hold drunk women and men to a different standard is my point though...so if those 4 women were drunk?

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Correct me if I’m wrong, couldn’t they claim that she was “drunk drunk” in the bar (backed up by video of her stumbling), then she didn’t drink for the last hour she was there (according to the statement from Reggie’s) and sobered up. That’s when she left with the guys, had sex and started drinking again after. She then said she wanted to be taken to a friends house. She couldn’t remember the exact address, which led to arguments and her eventually telling them to let her out.

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Video 15 minutes before she leaves with them shows her falling off a bench and 17 year old suspect helping her up.

couple of points to make here, not to you SFP

on thread housekeeping:
1. Some of you are attempting to hijack this thread with very unnecessary tangents

2. some of you are attempting to hijack this thread and make it about yourself

3. some of you really need to show some restraint and respect the dead

on a few of the particulars of the case
1. Very little has been said about Lee, I suspect that is because he was filming most and/or all of the time

2. any video from the four would only be voluntarily presented by the defense if it were favorable to the defense

3. if Lee was filming the whole/most of the time and there are clips that present their case in a positive light then of course the defense would show that side.

4. Hence what they showed Nakamoto was most likely edited to refute what Hillar Moore and the Judge said after the hearing

5. however if Lee or any of them, filmed the sex and at any point she said no or attempted to stop the proceedings then they would only give that video up under court order

6. If Madi has a history of binge drinking leading up to this, then perhaps she has built up a physical tolerance to alcohol that could be uncommon. Alcohol affects everybody differently, so the .319 BAC means she would be incapable of what we saw in the Reggie's parking lot video is BS. We dont know that

7. One thing that will be very telling is if they filmed the scenario from when they got in the car, then almost immediately parked in the driveway on Jennifer Jean to when they left and went down Burbank.

8. was she into physical activity with the 17yr old and then she got more than she bargained for when Kaivon entered the car?

9. Did her demeanor change after the Sodomy happened? It caused an injury that was noted in the autopsy. That could be an adrenalin fueled event that may have had a somewhat sobering effect on her and even in a drunken haze she realized she needed to get home.

10. defense attorney attacking the .319 BAC and the lab is negotiating in the media. Unless there was a catastrophic failure on procedures with the blood draw/lab tests, that strategy will go nowhere.

Perhaps Madi had another side to her when she became really intoxicated and that is why the GF let her go with the strangers in the Reggie's parking lot. Of course there are people out there that completely lose all of their inhibitions and self control when they reach a high level of intoxication. If Madi reached that state from 1:50 AM to 2:30 AM, does that then allow for two males to legally have sex with her after she gave what they said was "consent?"

I have sons, and I do understand your point. I will take issue on two points here. One in general and one specific to this case. 1. Women are physically defenseless against a man, even of equal size and weight. Specific as well due to the nature of female anatomy (ie, you can be taken advantage of even in a 'passive state' if you will) It makes sense to me to give some weight to this under the law. How do you keep men from taking a few shots and having at it with anyone they want claiming they were drunk? 2) in this case there were 4 males, thereby making her completely defenseless, even if she were sober. You don't tend to hear of a lot of female on male rape cases, at least outside of the sick teachers and underage students.

Of course I do. I was stating my frustration that the reporters were trying to conflate the two.