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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:05 pm to Beef Tips
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:05 pm to Beef Tips
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Surely this is referring to the rape episode preceding her death and not some odd note about previous scarring in her rectum that could have come from a multitude of things. No? Seems that note was to clearly indicate trauma in her anus resulting from rape.
That’s how I read it. And if true, it’s dynamite for the prosecution and kryptonite for the defense.
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:05 pm to JudgeHolden
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And most people will think you can’t walk with a .319 BAC
To be fair, as this thread indicates, most people havent a clue what .319 bac means. Opinions are all over the place on what someone can or cannot do with an extremely high bac.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:06 pm to lctiger
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Prosecutions lab expert will have the science on his side
And science matters very little in most jury trials.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:06 pm to JudgeHolden
Defense lawyers have no choice but to attack the test. Just like they have no choice but to argue consensual sex
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:06 pm to JudgeHolden
We saw all this with the O.J. trial. This expert versus that expert and jury wasn't moved by that evidence.
Police out to get the defendant. She consented. No way she could run like that if she were at .319. Defense will say all that and if the jury is comprised racially as EBR is comprised it'd be difficult to get a conviction without more evidence coming out.
I find it hard to believe these guys didn't video the actual rapes.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:06 pm to JudgeHolden
A Jury likely in BR no less.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:07 pm to Beef Tips
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I call BS. Im sure the lab/er knew she was hit by a vehicle
The ER would have known the reason for admission, but the lab tech that analyzed the specimen would have only known her name/DOB. Aside from that, they don’t get involved in diagnosis/reason for admission. Keep in mind, OLOL is a zoo now. Do you really think a lab tech has time to keep track of each patient’s diagnosis?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:08 pm to FatBaldandGray
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They wouldn't have let those organs go without a total tox panel.
Great point!!!
She was a donor
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:08 pm to Beef Tips
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Seems that note was to clearly indicate trauma in her anus resulting from rape.
i am certainly not a medical examiner, but i don't see why this would have been mentioned in the arrest warrant if it was not considered pertinent to the case...not everything in the autopsy report would need to be included in the warrant...
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:09 pm to JudgeHolden
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Visuals often matter more than numbers on paper.
And there will be video of her falling off of barstools.
So the defense is going to say she was drunk enough to fall off barstools, then she sobered up to cross the street to have consensual sex, then somehow got drunk again to the point of wandering onto a highway with a BAC of .32 on a highly specific lab test.
Or maybe she was just drunk as frick the whole time
Once again y’all are only talking about what the defense lawyer wanted revealed to you through the media
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:09 pm to hmmmokay
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The accuracy of the BAC sample is not a matter of opinion. It is a science that can be proved or disproved. In most situations, if the value flagged in the hospital they would re-draw immediately.
Very true. This should be highlighted.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:10 pm to ell_13
Prosecutors would be happy for the case to move to another venue. Say, north Louisiana.
Baton Rouge or New Orleans would be worst cities for prosecution.
There's a 'stick it to the man' at play with the public on this.
When O.J. was acquitted there were cheers and celebrations. Did they believe he was innocent? No, but it was a way to say "F you" to the man. Ditto this.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:11 pm to Beef Tips
Anybody that has sat through an undergrad toxicology class should remember the day where they demonstrate alcohol toxicity. I did the guinea pig during my class (the bastards did it on a Friday for a Monday-Wednesday-Friday class so I didn't get a pass). I fell out at .290 and I was a big boy.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:11 pm to berrycajun
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Great point!!! She was a donor
Indeed.
Is it possible a retest, done after the arrest warrant, showed a lower BAC?
I’d almost feel better about that.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:11 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:You want to talk about the stuff we don’t know and haven’t seen?
Once again y’all are only talking about what the defense lawyer wanted revealed to you through the media
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:12 pm to GRIZZ
Does a bac level ever get
Flagged? One that high would be cause for redraw?
Flagged? One that high would be cause for redraw?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:12 pm to HodsonTiger13
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This expert versus that expert and jury wasn't moved by that evidence
My dad was involved in a PI case that happened at a nuclear power plant. One expert witness was a professor of nuclear physics and the other was the former commander of a nuclear submarine. Probably the two smartest people who had or ever will set foot in that courtroom. They each took an opposite position and cancelled each other out.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:13 pm to FatBaldandGray
quote:Wait. Did you drink alcohol in class?
Anybody that has sat through an undergrad toxicology class should remember the day where they demonstrate alcohol toxicity. I did the guinea pig during my class (the bastards did it on a Friday for a Monday-Wednesday-Friday class so I didn't get a pass). I fell out at .290 and I was a big boy.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:13 pm to HodsonTiger13
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When O.J. was acquitted there were cheers and celebrations. Did they believe he was innocent? No, but it was a way to say "F you" to the man. Ditto this.
OJ was straight up prosecutorial malpractice. That won’t happen here. Among other things, there are no cameras in the courtroom.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:14 pm to HodsonTiger13
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But look at the 'race politics' of EBR. You'd have an elected DA cutting a 'sweetheart deal' for the one white defendant to get more severe penalties for the three blacks.
Regardless Carver didn't get in back and rape as the other 2 (18 and 17) young guys did, you've still got racial politics at play.
I can already see the quotes: "How much did they pay the white boy to roll over on the others"
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