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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:39 pm to JudgeHolden
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:39 pm to JudgeHolden
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I think likely we are going to learn that there are problems with that reading.
Because you saw a 15 second video that was leaked by the defense to cause the very response we are seeing from you?
How about the videos we haven’t seen of her falling off barstool? Does that qualify as a “stupor”
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:39 pm to JudgeHolden
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A person's blood-alcohol concentration (BAC) and state of inebriation at the time of death is not always easy to establish owing to various postmortem artifacts. The possibility of alcohol being produced in the body after death, e.g. via microbial contamination and fermentation is a recurring issue in routine casework.
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Interpreting results of ethanol analysis in postmortem specimens: a review of the literature Fredrik C Kugelberg et al. Forensic Sci Int. 2007.
Do we know if she was DOA? Or was she on a vent? That could make a difference.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:40 pm to JudgeHolden
I’m curious when it was taken. We don’t really know what kind of condition her body was in after being hit by the car. We do know she was kept on life support for some amount of time. But if she had liver damage, how does that impact how it processes her blood? Obviously, it would all be scrutinized in court though I’m still not convinced this ever goes that far.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:41 pm to LNCHBOX
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Yea, anyone that has either done heavy drinking or been around others who have knows that to be true.
Fortunately for me, I can say I havent been nor do I know anyone who is an alcoholic (that I am aware of).
Therein lies part of why I just can’t understand.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:41 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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How about the videos we haven’t seen of her falling off barstool? Does that qualify as a “stupor”
It’s good evidence of it. Let’s see it and we will see.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:42 pm to JudgeHolden
I wouldn’t think so but then again, I’ve not experienced this nor know anyone who has. 
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:42 pm to tiger91
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Fortunately for me, I can say I have t been nor so I know anyone who is an alcoholic (that I am aware of).
Never been to an lsu tailgate? Getting to a .31 BAC doesn't take so much as you'd think over a 6-8 hour day of drinking
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:43 pm to inspectweld
IMO, that she could walk in Reggie's parking lot is one thing. Some then suggest she wasn't in a drunken stupor. But that has to be reconciled with the fact she walked into an oncoming vehicle whatever her level of intoxication.
She was obviously unaware of her whereabouts and incapable of exercising basic judgments.
She was obviously unaware of her whereabouts and incapable of exercising basic judgments.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:43 pm to JudgeHolden
What kind of problems with the reading?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:43 pm to LNCHBOX
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Yea, anyone that has either done heavy drinking or been around others who have knows that to be true. Alcoholics sit at bars for hours then get in their cars and drive home every day.
Cuts both ways here. If she was a person who didn’t act as drunk as he was, the accused can argue they knew she was drunk but not incapacitated.
None of this is great from the defense standpoint. All I’m saying is don’t think this is an open and shut case.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:44 pm to JudgeHolden
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A person's blood-alcohol concentration (BAC) and state of inebriation at the time of death is not always easy to establish owing to various postmortem artifacts. The possibility of alcohol being produced in the body after death, e.g. via microbial contamination and fermentation is a recurring issue in routine casework.
judge with all due respect you are out of your element here. You clearly know the law better than me, but you are wrong here. Fermentation isn’t happening within a couple hours of arriving at the hospital. That would only occur in a decomposing body.
As soon as she was hit 911 was called and I would bet she was in the ER within 20 minutes where labs and blood was being drawn.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:44 pm to LNCHBOX
Pretty impressive that you know exact BAC of people at tailgates.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:44 pm to JudgeHolden
My understanding was life support so I’d assume yes to being on the vent.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:45 pm to LNCHBOX
I'm not a woman, but I can tell you, someone with a BAC around .3 can easily do a lot of things. It's almost obvious with some of these threads who were in Greek life
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:45 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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As soon as she was hit 911 was called and I would bet she was in the ER within 20 minutes where labs and blood was being drawn.
Pretty sure they had plenty of samples to draw from.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:45 pm to JudgeHolden
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If she was a person who didn’t act as drunk as he was, the accused can argue they knew she was drunk but not incapacitated.
Walking means nothing
And by their own words, they clearly knew.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:46 pm to tiger91
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What kind of problems with the reading?
See above. The body can produce alcohol post mortem.
There may be chain of custody issues. Who knows?
I guarantee if I’ve got this video against a .319, I’m going to attack that reading.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:46 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Because you saw a 15 second video that was leaked by the defense to cause the very response we are seeing from you?
Amazing how easily people are duped by these.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:47 pm to LNCHBOX
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And by their own words, they clearly knew.
They knew she was drunk. They did not say she was incapacitated. They kind of said the opposite.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:47 pm to ell_13
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Pretty impressive that you know exact BAC of people at tailgates.
Shut the frick up
. There are calculators that give at the very least very solid estimates. But go on doing the same dumb thing you've been doing all thread
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