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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:43 pm to
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The extreme level of intoxication is pretty much admitted by everyone. The two who talked can always recant, but what they have said along with the .319 level pretty much makes it clear she was in no state to consent.

Yeah this is the thing that gets me. The entire defense seems to hinge on the idea that the BAC was wrong and/or she wasn’t really that drunk when the sex happened. But you still have the statements by two of the defendants:
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“when I tell you drunk, drunk, she was drunk.”

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The co-defendant stated that he asked the victim for her address, but she fell over and could not answer him.

Seems like that’s going to be hard to walk back. So if their video evidence makes jurors think “maybe they couldn’t tell she was wasted,” how does the defense explain their statements after-the-fact that she was, indeed, wasted?

Also - where is the legal line for the defense trying the case in the media? Is the judge likely to step in? I’m starting to wonder whether the defense team actually leaked the Reggie’s parking lot video, not the bar.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:43 pm to
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Unsurprisingly, you are completely wrong here.


So you believe blacks arent smarter than progs believe?

Interesting take to admit.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:44 pm to
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So you believe blacks arent smarter than progs believe?



Never said that, but I'm not foolish enough to say that none of them feel that way.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Yeah this is the thing that gets me. The entire defense seems to hinge on the idea that the BAC was wrong and/or she wasn’t really that drunk when the sex happened. But you still have the statements by two of the defendants:
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“when I tell you drunk, drunk, she was drunk.”

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The co-defendant stated that he asked the victim for her address, but she fell over and could not answer him.


Bingo.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29887 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:47 pm to
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I tried that with tequila. I was a lean and mean 205 back then, and I think I only made it to 13 before going down.



Back in your day it was probably only 40%, Jesus man.
Posted by Tacktheritrix
Wonderland
Member since Jun 2013
1198 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:49 pm to
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So if their video evidence makes jurors think “maybe they couldn’t tell she was wasted,” how does the defense explain their statements after-the-fact that she was, indeed, wasted?


Has there been any mention if she continued to drink after leaving the bar with them? Maybe that's why she seemed sober at the time of the video and then an hour later the BAC was .319
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:49 pm to
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JudgeHolden has destroyed your credibility, give it a rest.



I can see how someone with your “obvious intellectual abilities“ would think that.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:50 pm to
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Back in your day it was probably only 40%, Jesus man.


I know. But according to the BAC estimator, I would have been at about .29 when I hit the wall.

I know for sure I had alcohol poisoning a few years later after innumerable shots of Jaeger at Fat Harry's. I was in bed for two days after that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:51 pm to
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but I'm not foolish enough to say that none of them feel that way.


Neither am I, youre just struggling with comprehension.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Neither am I, youre just struggling with comprehension.


Sure, man. Totally.
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
875 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:53 pm to
Lot of people speaking in absolutes, might want to wait for all the evidence. Like most cases.

Sad story.!
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:54 pm to
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Has there been any mention if she continued to drink after leaving the bar with them? Maybe that's why she seemed sober at the time of the video and then an hour later the BAC was .319


Thought about that.

If she was at .319 at death, and she stopped drinking 1.5 hours earlier, she would have had to have done 8 or 9 shots at once to get to that level (assuming she was about 135 pounds).

The accused may say she chugged a bottle in the car after the sex. Although if that were true, it seems like they would have said it by now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:54 pm to
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Maybe that's why she seemed sober at the time of the video


I've known people drive blackout drunk and make it home, not remembering with probably less than a .30.

Posted by Tigers13
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2005
1818 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:55 pm to
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So you believe blacks arent smarter than progs believe?


Have you ever been to Louisiana?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19279 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:56 pm to
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If you raise your daughter right, she wouldn’t even be in the same building as these types of characters let alone even look at them.


Get the frick out of here with that. You've never been in the same building as sketchy people? Should we keep our kids from going to sporting events? Should we ban them from Walmarts?

90% of students at LSU have been to Reggie's. Do they all have shitty parents?
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Call it what you want but that’s my belief. Mingling if two different types of demographics should never happen. Raise your kids right folks.


What does this even mean? Two people of different income levels shouldn't ever interact?
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:57 pm to
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What does this even mean?


i think he means a female mingling with males.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:57 pm to
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Seems like that’s going to be hard to walk back. So if their video evidence makes jurors think “maybe they couldn’t tell she was wasted,” how does the defense explain their statements after-the-fact that she was, indeed, wasted?


I guess you could argue that she was still absorbing alcohol, and getting drunker, after the sex. In other words, she chugged a bottle and looked tipsy but was sober enough to give consent, then started to keel over as alcohol fully hit her.

The Reggie's statement that she had not had a drink for an hour before she left makes this a little harder to believe.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Mingling if two different types of demographics should never happen.


Well. I sincerely hope not to mingle with whatever skinhead demographic you represent.

Dafuq is wrong with you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:00 pm to
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So you believe blacks arent smarter than progs believe?


Have you ever been to Louisiana?



I've been out of Louisiana where everyone of any race is a bit smarter.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40496 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:00 pm to
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The Reggie's statement that she had not had a drink for an hour before she left makes this a little harder to believe.



curious if that means she didn't buy another drink and closed her tab. Because that is very different than not having another drink.

Not sure how else you can make that claim unless she is clearly not drinking on camera for the last hour.
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