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re: Delta Moves On...Cleanup Begins

Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:45 pm to
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Mane I am not here to argue with NHC or anyone but I just dont see NNW..


There's a plane dropping data collectors into the center and marking its location exactly.

It's moving NNW without a doubt.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2642 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:46 pm to
Ole law and order could say contra flow, and make it so in less than an hour.

C’mon JBE, get er done!!
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131503 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:46 pm to
Track shifted 1/10 H east
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Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41905 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

The official intensity forecast through landfall is above most of the model guidance.


Ugh...
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131503 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

There's a plane dropping data collectors into the center and marking its location exactly.

It's moving NNW without a doubt.


They are wishcasting for whatever reason. Live in LC or something maybe so its understandable
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
Member since Oct 2006
7967 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:48 pm to
They have it gutted. Bad but not terrible. Mostly water damage. East side got the brunt of the damage. I salvaged some of the furniture they are replacing.
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10129 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:48 pm to
quote:


There's a plane dropping data collectors into the center and marking its location exactly.

It's moving NNW without a doubt


Which is why I said I am not here to argue......
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75072 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

Hmmm, normally you're pretty spot on but wobbles at this point, at around 24 hours until landfall, do matter. This is precisely the point that they begin to matter. If it follows the NHC's path because it's only a wobble east or west, whatever, ok.

In the grand scheme of things, wobbles don't matter. If you're close enough that a wobble 24 hours or greater out will impact you, you should likely be evacuating regardless. This is a large windfield and potentially big time surge event. A wobble should not be determining your decision making and/or plans.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 9:51 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147074 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Mane I am not here to argue with NHC or anyone but I just dont see NNW..

I already got the math done for you straight from the plane data

quote:

assuming the 4th drop in the eye by the USAF plane is its final one

so...

1st drop of that mission... 24.6N 93.3W @ 20:23z

final drop of that mission... 25.5N 93.6W @ 01:32z

so over the last 5+ hours... the center of Delta has moved +0.9N +0.3W

it moved 0.2 degrees north for every 0.1 degree west it moved at the same time... the very definition of NNW
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30509 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

it moved 0.2 degrees north for every 0.1 degree west it moved at the same time... the very definition of NNW


Boom
Posted by Highway_Man
Member since May 2014
327 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:51 pm to
Wouldn't that be .3 north for every .1 west? Lol
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

If you're close enough that a wobble 24 hours or greater out, you should likely be evacuating regardless.


I mean yeah, that's why the "cone" exists. But from a scientific standpoint, and a final landfall location they do matter. Of course, these systems never travel in a straight line, but we don't call it wobble watching for nothing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

what on earth did the NHC see in the numbers that got them to raise it to 120?




quote:

Peak flight-level winds were 120 kt, and the highest SFMR-observed surface winds were 98 kt. Using a blend of adjusted flight-level and surface wind observations, the current intensity estimate is set at 105 kt.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Hmmm, normally you're pretty spot on but wobbles at this point, at around 24 hours until landfall, do matter.


I said on the small scale, like how far from LC it is, they matter but it's hard to know what they'll eventually yield at this point but won't provide a dramatic shift in the big picture track.

The late wobbles really matter though because they might not be able to wobble back to the mean motion before landfall and spare people.
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:52 pm to
Anyone know that supernovasky poster from the 2016 flood? I would think he would be in these hurricane threads. He was incredibly helpful in that 2016 flood thread.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:53 pm to
Gotcha, baw.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Mane I am not here to argue with NHC or anyone but I just dont see NNW..




NHC uses what they call the "storm best track" which basically is an educated smoothing of the wobbles we watch as laymen.
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7795 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:53 pm to
Math is obviously harder for some people. Was he the same guy who started the calculus thread earlier?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

In my case, I wanted to be somewhere where I can get back quickly to surmise damage and return in the same day.




Did you go to Houston? I can't keep track.
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