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re: Delta Airlines to United - Hold My Beer

Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:24 am to
Upvote your title....wish I could downvote Delta
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:24 am to
quote:

The dad thinks just because he paid for the seat he can put any person in it he wants. That is not how it works.


Why?

He was told it was fine by the employees at the gate.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138530 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:24 am to
these are the things that happen when you hire flight attendants that are on the same level of employee as fast food workers

airlines need to hire better people that know how to communicate and efficiently diffuse conflict. That is a skill that the airlines need to pay for.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71044 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:24 am to
They were essentially trying to use two seats for the one purchased ticket for their older kid. The parents are dumb and/or entitled twats, like most airplane passengers these days.
Posted by CoachCredeur
Rayne
Member since Jul 2013
170 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:25 am to
How did they know that that was not the child? Couldn't they just say this that child? How would the airline prove it wasn't?
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83029 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:25 am to
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I have a hard time believing there weren't other passengers on the flight that could have been bought off. Why go after a family?


Not at all defending them, but I don't think this was exactly the same as United where they needed to kick people off. The son that the ticket was originally for did not show up for the flight (because he got on an earlier flight) so in Delta's eyes, the seat is now open and able to be sold.

The blurry line is that FAA requirements vs. Delta policy are different. One says babies must be held in lap. The other says they must have a seat with a child seat. The issue, though, is that nothing was in said baby's name so the seat was essentially vacant. Dad was pissed (understandably) because he paid for the seat (since empty seat was his son's). But think of it this way: Had that been a random passenger's seat who didn't show up, would Dad have the right to put baby there? No. So in the airline's eyes, he doesn't have the right to do it when his son didn't show up either. Tickets belong to the person whose name is on them - not the person who paid for them.

EDIT: I think the rule is beyond stupid.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 9:26 am
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Brian Schear recalled the airline staff telling him




Fake news.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:26 am to
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The father even gave up towards then end and said they'd have the kid in their laps, but the FA decided to be vindictive.


exactly. Unfortunately a company the size of delta cannot control all employees.

I would have thought compassion/customer service training would have been immediately required on all major airlines after the last incident, but I guess not.

There is no reason to be vindictive when you are a company this size. Make people comfortable, get them where they need to be, and make all attempts to prevent confrontations. Just mind boggling this lady handled it this way.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:26 am to
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They were essentially trying to use two seats for the one purchased ticket for their older kid.


Umm what? They purchased the same amount of tickets as the amount of seats they were occupying.

The seat was just in another kid's name that was not on that flight. They asked the gate if that was ok and they said yes.

They boarded the plane, which was then deemed overbooked, and they went after the family because the name situation with that seat.

Its a rule. Its just a shitty rule and they should not have gone after a family. Just bribe other passengers.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:27 am to
They were making up some shite about faa regulations for kids 2 and under.

I'm browsing and don't see anywhere where the FAA says kids 2 and under must fly in the parents lap. Pretty sure that would be very dangerous.

That was Delta's mistake here.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71044 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:27 am to
quote:

How did they know that that was not the child? Couldn't they just say this that child? How would the airline prove it wasn't?


You're asking how they knew an adult passenger originally booked on flight B was moved to flight A in their records?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71044 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:28 am to
quote:

The seat was just in another kid's name that was not on that flight


Where was he? And what was he sitting in?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66973 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:28 am to
I also forgot Rule 1 with the wife....apologies

Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:28 am to
quote:

They were essentially trying to use two seats for the one purchased ticket for their older kid


Were they going to refund the seat he paid for?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66973 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Where was he? And what was he sitting in?



Earlier flight. He was 18.

I am guessing the dad traded in for a newer model.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:28 am to
She fine.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71044 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:29 am to
Why would they?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73601 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:29 am to
I wonder if she's into butt stuff.

I bet she's into butt stuff.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:30 am to
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I'm browsing and don't see anywhere where the FAA says kids 2 and under must fly in the parents lap. Pretty sure that would be very dangerous.


True. Kids 2 and under CAN fly in a parents lap, but it's not required. I know for a fact that they are allowed to sit in car seats, my sister did this multiple times flying to and from NYC.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71044 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:30 am to
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Earlier flight. He was 18.


Right. Dad pays for a seat for 18 year old. 18 year old got his seat. You don't get an extra seat or refunded for choosing to hop on a different flight.
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