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Definitive guide to the galaxy by reo45--reefer, Genesis and the singularity

Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:16 am
Posted by reo45
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:16 am
So i was thinking the other day about what Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking (RIP) have been harping on about AI. They say that one day AI will experience a singularity and be "self-aware".

So, I went back and read Genesis in the Bible and it seems that the "singularity" already happened with humans back at rhe beginning of enlightenment.

The eating of the apple was symbolic of becoming self aware and thus the singularity.

We are truly a biological AI so to speak evolved from a foreign source outside our space time continuum.

Some freaky shite.

I'm gonna hit this joint again.

Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:18 am to
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We are truly a biological AI so to speak evolved from a foreign source outside our space time continuum.


Or we are AI trapped in a higher beings “sims” game

Posted by reo45
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:20 am to
No doubt brother.

No doubt.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:26 am to
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Or we are AI trapped in a higher beings “sims” game
DNA is data.

Physics is glitchy at the subatomic scale.

Can't go faster than light because the CPU is pegged out.
Posted by HollyWoodCole
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:33 am to
Posted by Jon Ham
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:55 am to
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The eating of the apple was symbolic of becoming self aware and thus the singularity.


Next step is we attach our brains to computers for instant knowledge/data. Musk recently said we are already cuyborgs with how attached to our phones we are, but the data stream between the phone and our brain is like sucking through a straw when it could be a river.

Funny thing, maybe Apple will be the company to produce those brain attaching microchips. Another “apple” from the tree of knowledge.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 10:22 am to
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eating of the apple was symbolic of becoming self aware and thus the singularity. 


it does not follow.

In fact the opposite is so.

There is always singularity.
Eating the apple is about the sense of separation of one from the all. You must be separate from the object to have knowledge of it.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 10:24 am to
We are the universe becoming aware of itself. Just think about the other shite going on we don't have the capabilities to understand.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 10:28 am to
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it does not follow.

In fact the opposite is so.

There is always singularity.
Eating the apple is about the sense of separation of one from the all. You must be separate from the object to have knowledge of it.




This goes against the most basic understanding of consciousness... "I think therefore I am".

How could I possibly have knowledge of myself as an object if I am separate from myself? You need not be separate of something to have knowledge of it.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:15 am to
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This goes against the most basic understanding of consciousness... "I think therefore I am". 

How could I possibly have knowledge of myself as an object if I am separate from myself? You need not be separate of something to have knowledge of it.






first, distinguish between you as attention being aware of whatever and consciousness altogether. The word has two uses.

Posted by HollyWoodCole
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:19 am to
Free your mind and your arse will follow

-George Clinton
Posted by Hulkklogan
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:22 am to
quote:

We are truly a biological AI so to speak evolved from a foreign source outside our space time continuum.

What are you on about?

Because we are biological we aren't "AI" and we aren't a from a foreign source. The molecules we are largely comprised of are the most plentiful in the universe. The singularity you should be thinking about is the Big Bang.
Posted by LarryDavid
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:38 am to
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 3:20 pm to
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first, distinguish between you as attention being aware of whatever and consciousness altogether. The word has two uses.



yea sure, but either way there is no need for separation.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 3:32 pm to
Read this new book




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A fascinating study of the subject of UFOs and extraterrestrials by one the country’s innovative scholars. The author travels from the desert of New Mexico, to Silicon Valley, and the Vatican Secret Archive and Space Observatory. She interviews brilliant scientists who believe their innovative technologies are inspired by alien artifacts. Could technology be that weird? The answer is, yes.



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W. PASULKA Diana Walsh Pasulka is a Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington and Chair of the Department of Philosophy and Religion. Her research focuses on religion and technology, including supernatural belief and its connections to digital technologies and environments. She is author of American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology, forthcoming with Oxford University Press. Her current projects include two edited volumes, Believing in Bits: New Media and the Supernatural, co-edited with Simone Natalie and forthcoming with Oxford University Press, and Post Humanism: The Future of Homo Sapiens, co-edited with Michael Bess and forthcoming with Palgrave MacMillan Reference. American Cosmic is available at these book sellers: Barnes & Noble; Indie Bound; Amazon; Oxford University Press;
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 3:40 pm to
Thank you for the heads up on that book Thine. I wonder how much information that author was allowed to see in the Vatican Archives? I will order this book now.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 3:41 pm to
Thought this was about Genesis the band. Am disappointed
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 4:05 pm to
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Thank you for the heads up on that book Thine. I wonder how much information that author was allowed to see in the Vatican Archives? I will order this book now.


Still early in the book, but:

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I began my own research into aerial phenomena after I finished a book on the Catholic doctrine of purgatory. The project was a multiyear study in which I examined many primary sources of European Catholic history, found mostly in obscure archives, of anecdotes about souls from purgatory. These sources dated from 1300 to 1880. In them I found a lot of other unexpected things, such as reports of orbs of light, flames that penetrated walls, luminous beings, forms of conscious light, spinning suns, and disclike aerial objects. I wasn’t sure how to theorize these reports, and I left them out of my book. Yet I wondered about them. I wondered aloud one morning while drinking coffee with a friend. “These reports remind me of a Steven Spielberg film. You know, lots of shining aerial phenomena, luminous beings, transformed lives,” he said. I summarily dismissed his comparison.

The next day, he found an ad for a local conference about UFOs and extraterrestrials taking placethe following weekend. He suggested that I attend. The conference featured speakers who were experiencers, people who have sighted UFOs or believe they have seen extraterrestrials. They described some of the same things I had observed in my research in Catholic history—shining aerial discs, flames, and orbs—and especially how these experiences transformed their lives. The experiencers interpreted these as spiritual or religious events. They either fractured their traditional religious belief systems or, more commonly, caused them to reinterpret their traditions through a biblical–UFO framework in which they viewed biblical and historical religious events as UFO events. Ezekiel’s wheel is the prime example of how scripture is used in this context. Many religious practitioners view the strange spinning aerial contraption witnessed by the biblical prophet Ezekiel as a UFO.




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experiencers


https://silvarecord.com/2019/01/09/experiencers-unique-intuition-and-biomarkers/

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Experiencers, Unique Intuition, and Biomarkers
JANUARY 9, 2019


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I’ve been fortunate enough to have slides shared with me by Dr. Garry Nolan (@GarryPNolan) a professor at Stanford University who has been undertaking some incredible work on a patient population brought to him by Dr Kit Green that might shed light on individuals with unique cognitive and intuitive abilities. The study was accomplished in close collaboration with Dr Christopher (Kit) Canfield Green who worked for the CIA between the 1970s and 1980s, and who is now a private physician in forensic medical practice, and is affiliated with the Departments of Diagnostic Radiology and Psychiatry and Behavioral Neurosciences at the Wayne State School of Medicine and Detroit Medical Center. The presentation itself occurred during the Consortium for Space Genetics at Harvard Medical School, so carries weight not only from the people giving the presentation but from the venue as well. The whole talk centers on one main topic with two relating subtexts. The leading reason for the talk is questioning whether there is evidence for biological indicators that identifies people with unique forms of intuition and the two subtexts being the intuition itself with related information on what’s known as “experiencers” – more on those later.


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Experiencers

Individuals commonly referred to as “Experiencers” are people that have received exposure to something that would normally be referred to as paranormal, whether that be UFOs, spirits, ghosts, or religious apparitions. These can be experienced when these people are, as mentioned in the slides, “awake”. While the talk never specifically mentions paranormal, it seems to suggest that hallucinations may not explain the visual or auditory experiences, the slides are vague on this point. I suspect this was Dr Nolan’s intent to not distract from the central message of “real science” and data. The presentation again mentions savant level IQs, so it can only be assumed that this is a main requirement for the experiences. It also has more references to genetic inheritance as two brothers and their mother are mentioned as well as a father, mother, and daughter. While the study points out to the, now, mainstream understanding of the caudate-putamen’s role in processing complex information, it is possible to speculate that the study population might be capable of interpreting some information from their environments to which the rest of the population may be somewhat blind. Whether this is the “akashic field” that’s been spoken about in various esoteric religions and scripts, Annie Jacobsen’s reporting on the “spidey sense” program (LINK , or something else is not clear. Considering it’s mentioned that people see “entities”, it may be possible that such a thing (whatever they are – religious spirits, aliens, fairies, etc.), if existing, may be drawn to these people. We should consider the possibility that they’re attracting these things as these people can interpret their environmental changes in a manner that makes some forms of communication feasible. Without full analysis of the communication across a blinded population, it may be impossible to read much more into any possible consistent message being received. However, this is speculation on my part.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 4:16 pm to
There is no spoon.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 4:19 pm to
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So, I went back and read Genesis in the Bible and it seems that the "singularity" already happened with humans back at rhe beginning of enlightenment.



I went back and read the Silmarillion and it seems to that there was Eru, the One, who in Arda is called Ilúvatar; and he made first the Ainur, the Holy Ones, that were the offspring of his thought, and they were with him before aught else was made.
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