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re: Defeat the Nurse Practitioner scope of practice expansion - Louisiana SB 187
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:55 pm to LATigerdoc
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:55 pm to LATigerdoc
Do you have any stats on harm to patients committed by NPs?
Real data. Not stories.
Real data. Not stories.
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:58 pm to PJ250R
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Now mean NPs can be sued?
NPs have been getting sued since they existed.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:59 pm to Steve Lurkel
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Do you have any stats on harm to patients committed by NPs?
I'm sure a dental hygienist could do just as well as a dentist in some cases, as could a paralegal versus an attorney.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:00 pm to Epic Cajun
Training Is still 4-6 / 1 at least
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:17 pm to Steve Lurkel
There have not been independent Louisiana NPs in the history of Louisiana
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:26 pm to LATigerdoc
does this mean a NP could open up a clinic and treat patients? or do they still have to be apart of a physicians group?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:30 pm to tke857
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does this mean a NP could open up a clinic and treat patients? or do they still have to be apart of a physicians group?
Yes that's exactly what it means. And, I'm sure we'll see NP clinics pop up in the underserved neighborhoods of Lakeview and the Garden District in New Orleans.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:33 pm to LATigerdoc
So are you saying Ophthalmologists no longer need CRNAs b/c they are qualified to intubate their own patients b/c they did it a few times during their clinical rotations?
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:33 pm to LATigerdoc
The stats don't have to be from Louisiana.
Any increase in patient harm in the other 21 states that allow nps independent practice?
Any increase in patient harm in the other 21 states that allow nps independent practice?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:35 pm to guttata
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So are you saying Ophthalmologists no longer need CRNAs b/c they are qualified to incubate their own patients
If they wash their hands this shouldn't be a problem.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:40 pm to guttata
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c they are qualified to incubate their own patients b/c they did it a few times during their clinical rotations?
When did hatching eggs become part of med school?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:40 pm to guttata
The incubated patients are typically in the nicu
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:41 pm to Steve Lurkel
The burden of proof is demanded from the one trying to change the law
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:43 pm to LATigerdoc
primarily the bill
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:43 pm to guttata
Is incubation part of Oklahoma optometric practice?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:44 pm to LATigerdoc
The burden is on the one claiming NPs harm patients because that's what the initial post I responded to infers.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:44 pm to tke857
True story: a NP opened up a clinic in Youngsville a few years ago and got into major trouble for going way outside NP scope of practice and that persons particular training, also involving prescription pain medication impropriety. Can't recall if there was MD oversight or not, but this clinic was shut down. So the concerns by the MDs are justified.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:47 pm to G Vice
Because they have MD by their that makes them immune from drug seeking behavior or less likely to make poor decisions?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:49 pm to toosleaux
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I'm sure a dental hygienist could do just as well as a dentist in some cases, as could a paralegal versus an attorney.
Eh, those are false equivalencies.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:49 pm to LATigerdoc
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The burden of proof is demanded from the one trying to change the law
Is there any question that the cost of medical care is too high? Allowing well trained (but not quite doctors) to care for those who don't necessarily need a doctor will have significant benefits as access to some form of treatment will increase.
A not-quite-doctor has to be better than no treatment at all.
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