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re: Defeat the Nurse Practitioner scope of practice expansion - Louisiana SB 187
Posted on 5/14/16 at 10:44 pm to chRxis
Posted on 5/14/16 at 10:44 pm to chRxis
Wow this has 47 pages!
I don't really care if a NP has an expanded role. More options seem nice. It's up to the patient to determine which route to go. I do like options.
A NP will come see me at the home and is cheaper, a Doctor will not.
I don't really care if a NP has an expanded role. More options seem nice. It's up to the patient to determine which route to go. I do like options.
A NP will come see me at the home and is cheaper, a Doctor will not.
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 10:47 pm to SuperSaint
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Hey bro? We FB friends?
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 10:48 pm to beauchristopher
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More options seem nice.
until you have to pay for all those options....
Posted on 5/15/16 at 12:32 am to beauchristopher
There are some doctors who make house calls. The np gets 80% pay with maybe 20% of the education.
Posted on 5/15/16 at 12:34 am to LATigerdoc
And u watch, they'll lobby for equal pay just like the optometrists have done
Posted on 5/15/16 at 12:37 am to LATigerdoc
15%
Posted on 5/15/16 at 6:17 am to LATigerdoc
Yea, they're crazy. The thought of equal pay for equal work. What a stupid idea.
This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 6:48 am
Posted on 5/15/16 at 8:46 am to LATigerdoc
There was a thread on here a couple of months ago on how hard nursing school is, and how people more people are kicked-out than graduate. Made it sound a lot harder than the friends I have in medical school who just smoke pot and go out in Shreveport.
If it gives us more options for a cheaper price, I'm down for it.
Yay #Capitalism
If it gives us more options for a cheaper price, I'm down for it.
Yay #Capitalism
Posted on 5/15/16 at 8:49 am to Womski
This thread needs to be anchored. 
Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:57 am to Restomod
NEVER!!! This has been great for getting my post count up!
Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:01 am to SmackoverHawg
#neveranchor
#npvsdrisfun
#npvsdrisfun
Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:06 am to AFtigerFan
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#neveranchor #npvsdrisfun
Upvote
Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:09 am to SmackoverHawg
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Would you feel the same about paralegals being able to become full fledged lawyers after working an "appropriate" number of hours under one and not having to pass the bar?
for sure
many times when lawyers switch into new areas, they hire a bunch of paralegals who have worked in that field to ease the transition
lawyers used to become professionals through apprenticeships. that worked for hundreds of years before lawyers figured out that if they rigged the system via licensing legislation. it's more of a protectionist move than anything these days. seriously the bar is just an institutional benchmark that doesn't really measure much in terms of daily application of law
Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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for sure many times when lawyers switch into new areas, they hire a bunch of paralegals who have worked in that field to ease the transition lawyers used to become professionals through apprenticeships. that worked for hundreds of years before lawyers figured out that if they rigged the system via licensing legislation. it's more of a protectionist move than anything these days. seriously the bar is just an institutional benchmark that doesn't really measure much in terms of daily application of law
Then get to writing that legislation baw. Quit wasting time on here and make a difference!! And there will be no bar exam for them of course. They can make up their own licensing exam totally separate from the bar to license and monitor them as needed. I will support both bills then. I actually think family practice may be better served by allowing young doc's to use much of their time to apprentice under older docs. The docs they have training most of the time now fall under the, "Those who can do. Those who can't teach."
Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:22 am to SmackoverHawg
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I actually think family practice may be better served by allowing young doc's to use much of their time to apprentice under older docs. The docs they have training most of the time now fall under the, "Those who can do. Those who can't teach."
i think that if we think about all of these issues in terms of areas of practice it can become easier to digest
in a completely licence-less system, i don't think many NPs are going to get much market credibility trying to act as neurosurgeons
just as paralegals aren't going to get much street cred in higher-end legal fields like M/A
but can a paralegal do lower-level work like family law or criminal? oh yeah. i seent it
could NPs be a good supplement to day-to-day GP work in the medical field? almost assuredly
small bites via incremental change makes the paradigm shift easier to process
Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
Has anything be said about pharmacists acting as physicians , diagnosing , prescribing medications at CVS/Walgreens, etc?
They too do not have the education and training as physicians.
They too do not have the education and training as physicians.
Posted on 5/15/16 at 12:11 pm to Restomod
Pharmacists at least know more about drug interactions than doctors, they are supposed to. Of course they can't prescribe, but their consultation is vital.
PharmD is 4 years, not including clinicals which are necessary for pretty much anywhere else in the field than retail.
They might not have the same training as MDs, but they are still Doctors, and their relative expertise should be respected. Also, pharmacists pay structure is completely different from the root of this issue in what is being discussed here. They nearly all get paid on salary, and their pay is not determined directly by how many patients they see.
PharmD is 4 years, not including clinicals which are necessary for pretty much anywhere else in the field than retail.
They might not have the same training as MDs, but they are still Doctors, and their relative expertise should be respected. Also, pharmacists pay structure is completely different from the root of this issue in what is being discussed here. They nearly all get paid on salary, and their pay is not determined directly by how many patients they see.
Posted on 5/15/16 at 12:31 pm to OceanMan
I have a ton of respect for pharmacists. They are not doctors, they should not diagnose and should not prescribe
Posted on 5/15/16 at 12:39 pm to SmackoverHawg
I'm all for spreading the wealth across the medical field, but stay away from trying to give paralegals more of a bite; these medical malpractice boards are already tying up my paydays for sometimes several years.
Posted on 5/15/16 at 12:53 pm to OceanMan
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Pharmacists at least know more about drug interactions than doctors, they are supposed to. Of course they can't prescribe, but their consultation is vital.
Actually, some Pharamacists can diagnos and subscribe.. This is no different than a Independent NP.
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