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re: Dedicated passenger train from Baton Rouge to New Orleans "3-5 years away"
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:39 pm to SG_Geaux
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:39 pm to SG_Geaux
How much would this cost? Would it be high speed?
Right now the trip to NOLA from BR takes about an hour and a half if you follow the speed limit. What would the train travel time be?
Also with cost, if you have a thirty mpg car, and you use 170 miles round trip you are using nearly $20 in gas. So if it's $5 each way, you can save money. (if you drive a truck you spend even more to do the round trip. based on $3.45/gal)
So I can see some usage. Maybe just as a day trip to BR for the downtown museums.
Right now the trip to NOLA from BR takes about an hour and a half if you follow the speed limit. What would the train travel time be?
Also with cost, if you have a thirty mpg car, and you use 170 miles round trip you are using nearly $20 in gas. So if it's $5 each way, you can save money. (if you drive a truck you spend even more to do the round trip. based on $3.45/gal)
So I can see some usage. Maybe just as a day trip to BR for the downtown museums.
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:41 pm to vl100butch
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as long as some of the money goes toward double tracking, the new bridge across the Bonnet Carre should without a doubt be double tracked...
Double tracked and slightly rerouted to allow for a possible future 11,000 ft runway entirely in St Charles parish.
In case the new airport needs to grow.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:49 pm to Solo
Welcome to Ben Sheets Stadium here in Sunny South Louisiana for this inaugural Opening day between the Louisiana Gamblers and the Houston Astros...
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:57 pm to Napoleon
quote:Fun with math...
So if it's $5 each way, you can save money.
$260,000,000 in cost.
$5/ride.
52,000,000 rides to pay back construction.
Say... 1000 riders per day (
) 52,000 days to break even.
142 years.
And that unrealistically presumes it doesn't cost a dime to operate or maintain.
At $20/ride, and 200 riders/day it's still at 178 year breakeven with no maintenance and operation cost.
There's a reason passenger rail service died in the 50s.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:00 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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Dedicated passenger train from Baton Rouge to New Orleans "3-5 years away"
They couldn't complete I-10 in BR in 3-5 years, but I'm going to believe they're going to build a rail line in that time?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:02 pm to Taxing Authority
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There's a reason passenger rail service died in the 50s.
Yes, the federal government nationalized public rail, making it so shitty, expensive, and inconvenient that few people utilize it outside the Richmond-Boston corridor.
Rail was huge in the late 40's. Now, it's damn near dead. It wasn't just the airlines and interstates that killed it, it was the federal government.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:03 pm to elprez00
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They couldn't complete I-10 in BR in 3-5 years, but I'm going to believe they're going to build a rail line in that time?
The tracks already exist. All they have to do is retrofit some portions of track, build the stations, and buy the trains to put on them.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:03 pm to Napoleon
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Right now the trip to NOLA from BR takes about an hour and a half if you follow the speed limit. What would the train travel time be?
In your story there is no traffic.
I would imagine it would be a 1:30 trip. Probably $20-30 each way.
Who runs this thing is a better question, Amtrak or a dedicated company? If Amtrak I would think they could run a drunk train 8 times a year to BR for football and regional type events for $50-75/person. Could expand cars as needed to make up lots of lost revenue.
Add in a couple holiday trains
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:04 pm to Taxing Authority
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$260,000,000 in cost.
quote:
There's a reason passenger rail service died in the 50s.
I don't get why rail is so expensive, when they'd be using existing right of way, and tracks.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:04 pm to Taxing Authority
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There's a reason passenger rail service died in the 50s.
because our govt is a bunch of jackasses?
this is a great idea, if implemented correctly, but considering this is louisiana thats not going to happen
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:06 pm to brodeo
quote:Amtrak didn't exist until 1970. It was dead long before that.
Rail was huge in the late 40's. Now, it's damn near dead. It wasn't just the airlines and interstates that killed it, it was the federal government.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:13 pm to Taxing Authority
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At $20/ride, and 200 riders/day it's still at 178 year breakeven with no maintenance and operation cost.
There's a reason passenger rail service died in the 50s.
How much do you pay to drive on an interstate assuming the only gas tax is paying for it?
Honestly have no idea, but if it covers 1/4 I would be shocked.
Would gas tax not be considered the ticket for drivers riding down the interstate?
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:14 pm to Taxing Authority
The federal government killed it with regulations, still treating the trains as though they had a monopoly on intercity travel into the 70's. In the 60's, the pulling of postal mail from trains shut down many passenger routes. Basically, the federal government choked the life out of them and then took them over.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:19 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Too slow and too many stops.
110 mph max speed with 7 stops. I can go faster in my car.
Should be one of those high speed maglift trains that go 300. One stop in BR one stop at airport and one stop in quarter.
110 mph max speed with 7 stops. I can go faster in my car.
Should be one of those high speed maglift trains that go 300. One stop in BR one stop at airport and one stop in quarter.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:31 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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In May 2012 (about a year after the bridge opened) the average daily traffic count was 2,887 vehicles. Consultants had projected 4,000 vehicles would use the bridge on a daily basis immediately after it opened.
The bridge’s current average daily traffic count is 3,400 vehicles. (As of February 2015)
The average daily traffic count projected for 2020 is approximately 6,500 vehicles a day.
Consultants anticipate traffic will swell to approximately 22,960 vehicles a day by 2040.
We paid $409MM for this and no one pays anything to use it.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:31 pm to cssamerican
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One stop in BR one stop at airport and one stop in quarter.
In order to get approval, they had to add another stop in Gonzales for the AP people to get their NOLA fix on too.
Distance: 80 miles @ 100 mph = 48 minutes
Stops: 4 @ 10 minutes each = 40 minutes
Total: 1 hour and 28 minutes
That's totally reasonable. That competes with driving even with 0 traffic.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:34 pm to brodeo
Is it 80 miles? Thought it would be less with a straight line.
It will do 80 max, and probably average 55. Speedlimits and all.
It will do 80 max, and probably average 55. Speedlimits and all.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:37 pm to brodeo
If you look at the article they are talking about scaling it to seven stops at 76 mph with 4 trips. That is 2 hours and 10 minutes per trip.
I would not ride because it is slow with too many stops. Plus if your are running to the quarter you need to run at night. Otherwise, I'll take my car. Why go to New Orleans if I got to catch my train at 5:00 pm.
I would not ride because it is slow with too many stops. Plus if your are running to the quarter you need to run at night. Otherwise, I'll take my car. Why go to New Orleans if I got to catch my train at 5:00 pm.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:40 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Good news, although it should go NOLA-Houston.
Do the loop too.
Need to spend a lot more on infrastructure.
Should be a political winner:
Government spending for the left
Corporate welfare for the right.
Do the loop too.
Need to spend a lot more on infrastructure.
Should be a political winner:
Government spending for the left
Corporate welfare for the right.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:45 pm to cssamerican
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If you look at the article they are talking about scaling it to seven stops at 76 mph with 4 trips. That is 2 hours and 10 minutes per trip.
Per the study last year with 79mph limits.
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The recommended startup service would operate twice daily between the downtowns of Baton Rouge
and New Orleans, a trip that would take one hour and 35 minutes with seven stops on the route. A
morning and afternoon train for commuters would start in each of the two cities on similar schedules.
quote:
Twice daily service would produce estimated ridership of 210,000 in the first year, HNTB says. Fares
could be as low as $10 each way. To begin, the train would require annual underwriting of $6.8 million,
about one-third of the estimate in the 2010 study. HNTB advises exploring many alternatives to cover
the operating cost, including tax increment financing on the development projects expected to align
with the rail line.
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This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 5:46 pm
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