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re: Death penalty vs life

Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:16 pm to
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I used to be of the opinion that the death penalty is better than life without parole but it's hard not to notice that for every death row prisoner requesting them to hurry it up, there's 100 of them doing everything they can to avoid execution.


This is interesting. One has to factor in the basic animal desire to live. Animals and people in the moment will do anything to survive, no matter how horrible the existence they are going back to is. People fight through horrible diseases despite being almost certain that living will have zero quality of life. The lizard brain is often masochistic. Prisoners can't help but have the hope that if they live the circumstances will change. In the event of life without they wake up every day with that hope dashed.

I do agree that the accommodations need to be just high enough to meet the requirements of the 8A and nothing more because there is no need to attempt to rehabilitate them.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:18 pm to
Death, but make it slow and excruciating enough that their last words are to thank the executioner for finally making it stop.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:22 pm to
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That’s what’s wrong with the whole process. Let inmates sit there for years and years with all these fricking appeals. Their victims didn’t get any appeals and shite. There is no reason for any appeals if a jury of your peers finds you guilty and impose the death penalty.


Leftists claim that Capital Punishment isn’t a deterrence to murder while they are also the ones who make sure it takes decades to do. I promise you if murder, and I mean all murder, carried the death sentence and that sentence was to be carried out within something like 2-3 days of conviction, the murder rates would go down.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:23 pm to
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Don’t most death row people end up sitting there years anyways? I’d go with death penalty, you know those turds who get it are scared out of their mind when it comes.


I remember reading something a while back that like under 5% of death row inmates actually die from the death penalty, the majority die from natural causes.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:23 pm to
No doubt. It would make a huge difference.
Posted by JEC119
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:25 pm to
I would say death penalty and try to pay off the “hangman” to botch it up bad so he gets all the pain he deserves.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:28 pm to
Id want to load the rifle myself
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:28 pm to
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No doubt. It would make a huge difference.


Absolutely it would, especially if they bring back public hangings. It’s ridiculous that murderers are kept in prison for decades with countless appeals that drag on and on. Capital punishment could be highly effective if they’d fix it. Leftists know this so they purposely make the system the way it is.

And frick laying them in a table and sticking a needle in their arm. Bring back the gallows and a rope.
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:28 pm to
Yes. I would shot them 300 times before the bullet that actually killed them was shot. And it would give me the satisfaction that I ended their life and not old age.
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:30 pm to
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All felonies should get death penalty


Do you really think that if someone steals an iPhone they should be given the death penalty?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:30 pm to
I’m def an eye for an eye guy….
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:34 pm to
Throughout most of human history, major crimes (historically felonies) have received the death penalty. Historically, societies rarely ever had long prison sentences for criminals. If you think someone deserves longer than say 10 years for a crime, then what you’re really saying is they can’t be rehabilitated and they shouldn’t come back into society—so just be honest and give them the death penalty.
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:41 pm to
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If someone killed your loved one and you had your choice of life w/o parole or death what would you choose and why? For me, death is too easy. Rot in jail.


Life, but only if there were daily torture sessions. Death but only if they do it like I have heard the Japanese do. You are sentenced to death but they do not tell you what your execution date is. There is a regularly scheduled lottery where the names of all death row inmates’ names are put in a hat and a name is drawn. Execution squad is marched around death row over and over and randomly stop at different cells until ordered to stop by “lucky inmates” cell. Then they haul him off to be executed. Imagine sitting in a cell on death row and having to wonder “is today going to be the day?”
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:45 pm to
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Can you garuantee me that no innocent person was ever killed by the state?


No, I can not.

But 99.999% of murder victims were INNOCENT, and where does the math work for THEM?? Their lives were taken with NO evidence, NO judge, NO jury, and NO appeals.

You want math? Balance THAT equation.

Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:48 pm to
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I’m def an eye for an eye guy….


So if a guy is convicted of arson, you go to his house and burn it down and then things are even?

A rapist has his daughter taken and raped and things are squared up?

Quit thinking like a 7th grader, peej.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:57 pm to
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 life w/o parole
Not necessarily accurate. See out last governor.
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:58 pm to
Life in prison vs death..

You have to follow the rules of your state. Not the way you’d like the person to die or stay in jail.
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:59 pm to
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Yes. I would shot them 300 times before the bullet that actually killed them was shot. And it would give me the satisfaction that I ended their life and not old age.


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CHiPs25


Put this dude on a frickin list. This is psycho posting.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:10 pm to
I’m assuming this is for murder-1 and not something like “the other guy missed the stop sign and couldn’t stop or avoid my family member in time to prevent a fatal accident.”

LWOP, but preferably life with the possibility of parole over either LWOP or death. At least here, they would go away for almost 40 years before parole could ever be on the table. Vengeance doesn’t motivate me for anything in life. Maybe it would if this happened, to be fair.

The caveat would be that it should be very difficult to get parole for murder-1.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:16 pm to
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If you think someone deserves longer than say 10 years for a crime, then what you’re really saying is they can’t be rehabilitated and they shouldn’t come back into society—so just be honest and give them the death penalty.

Why is your cutoff ten years? Maybe they find God in year 13 or year 47 and it actually has a lasting effect.

This also assumes active efforts to rehabilitate prisoners in those first ten years, which may not be a reasonable assumption.

I think it’s fair to decide on an upper limit for sentencing due to the cost of housing prisoners, and to impose the death penalty for crimes that demand greater punishment than that upper limit. I don’t agree, but that’s a fair set of priorities.

But setting it because people “can’t” rehabilitate after X years just seems like a shortcut to feel better about the ethics of execution. It would be convenient to believe that since it would make execution much easier to justify on those grounds. But I don’t see where that’s actually true.
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