re: Dealing with car dealership/salesmen and their ploys

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The fee is not mandatory, however if the fee is charged to one person it must at least appear to be charged to all customers or face discrimination claims.

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In a word, no. Doc fees are clearly on the negotiable side of a car sales contract. There would not be a presumption of discrimination but rather you would need to show a pattern of discrimination. If the dealer is concerned about it they can simply remove $425 from the price of the car on the contract. Some will do it because they are not allowed to remove it based on dealership policy. Dealerships sell cars with the same MSRP to different people for different prices, it is common and expected in the industry.

Price LeBlanc in opelousas. 2023 Runner Pro. Paid sticker price because of being a pro and the color. My salesman was great. 45 mins otd.

If a price was advertised, and then was materially increased on anything other than TTL, I would walk out after laughing. Why in a million years would I trust a dealership that lies about something like the price?

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Things would be much easier if the price was the price, at least for new cars.

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If idiots stopped paying idiot prices for things they can't afford, we would be in a much better situation overall.

The fiances car is starting to show its age and have issues, and my Jeep will have some small problems getting any sort of MPG in the near/intermediate future, so we will be in the market for at least one vehicle. For a 3 row vehicle, the prices are absolutely retarded, because waves of idiots have no idea how to negotiate and buy within their means.

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I saw one for 31,800

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This one did and it came back at 39,300 OTD

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I’ve decided to not play any games. I picked a dealership and a sales guy I like. When it’s time for a new one I call and tell him it is, he has all records on mine. He finds what I want or waits for it and calls me when he has it. I tell him to draw up the paperwork and tell me what I owe. I drive over toss my keys to him sign in three or four places(I refuse to do the finance manager shite with the electronic screens) hand him a check and drive the other one off the lot. I rarely hear of a deal much different than the ones I get. We have bought our last 5 this way.

Russflipswhips

Email is even better. That by passes the salesman’s voice!

I’ve learned the best thing you can do is walk away and then you magically get a much lower price. I recently bought a new vehicle and we haggled back and forth a little and I asked if that is the lowest they can go. Salesman said yep. I said well I’ll go home and think about it. He then said hold on and went to the “manager” and it was $2k cheaper all of a sudden and we made the deal.

Now the finance people are a whole other story. I turn down any and all extra warranties and such, but they still try like hell. If you want an extended warranty it is usually much cheaper to shop around.