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re: deadly drug called “gray death” found in Louisiana; just touching it could kill you

Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:00 am to
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:00 am to
Heroin cut with fentanyl. You have to be suicidal to use that with intention.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:02 am to
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When did it become so widespread? The past 10-15 years?


It's always been a popular drug. It became more widespread thanks to the opioid crisis. People were prescribed way more opioids than they needed, got hooked, couldn't get a prescription anymore, turned to heroin for their fix.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:03 am to
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heroin mixed with fent isn't anything new, especially in the south. I guess they figured it needed a scary sounding name


Now people will be trying to turn their heroin gray to get more money for it.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29913 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:08 am to
Why is this a concern? A bunch of dead junkies is a win in my book.

It's like stopping a prison riot or putting a guy on death row on suicide watch. They wanna kill themselves or each other? OK.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33424 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:13 am to
Legalize narcotics (without taxing them into the stratosphere) and problems like this disappear overnight. The War on Drugs was a failure; time to try another way.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80830 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:15 am to
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The Freakonomics podcast has a two part series about how Perdue Pharma caused the opioid crisis by getting pain reclassified as a vital sign so that they could sell the heck out of their OxyContin. 

Which came first, CMS and the govt pushing for pain as the 5th vital sign or Perdue?

I can recall in the mid 90s media pushing the narrative that pain was undertreated and some subsequent successful lawsuits for undertreating pain.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 8:17 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:21 am to
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I can recall in the mid 90s media pushing the narrative that pain was undertreated and some subsequent successful lawsuits for undertreating pain.



When I was at Bama in the mid 90's, there was a doc at the student health center that gave out lortab prescriptions very graciously. We had no idea the dangers with them, and he certainly didn't tell us. We just knew a couple of them before a night of drinking made you feel awesome. So we'd go on Thursday complaining of back pain, get a prescription, and eat the entire bottle over a weekend.

Amazing none of us got hooked.
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17815 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:22 am to
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heroin mixed with fent isn't anything new, especially in the south. I guess they figured it needed a scary sounding name
= "we need more money, guns, apc's, deputies, and lifetime pensions to keep you safe"
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80830 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:25 am to
I'm curious, who do you blame in that situation?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36806 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:27 am to
Fentanyl laced heroin has been around for a while. Police are just catching on to this?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:28 am to
Cops have this thing where they think touching fentanyl, or even being in the same room as it will kill you.

I shite you not, it's kind of funny how scared they are of it.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 8:29 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39568 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:30 am to
I’m so naive regarding hard drugs so I have to ask: Why would someone take a drug that could likely kill them almost instantly.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25350 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:31 am to
So, preventative healthcare would be to become a junkie so this stuff wouldn't kill us?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:33 am to
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wondering the same... i mean if it can kill normal person by touching it, big time dopers have some sort of superpowers where it doesnt effect them like it does normal folk??


makes story into b.s.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39253 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:33 am to
We have already had a few deaths in the Terrebonne area with this stuff. I cannot imagine the background and choices one has to have to be ok with taking this
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:37 am to
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Why would someone take a drug that could likely kill them almost instantly.




A couple of problems with this. One, the belief that the drug can instantly kill them is a scare tactic that isn't entirely accurate.

But ignoring that, addiction is a nasty thing. Addicts make all kinds of irrational, dumb decisions, and it's not always made with a clear mind. Their bodies tell them they need that drug, and if they don't get it their body goes into withdrawal which for some drugs can be very unpleasant. Add to it that when they score their drug of choice, it's on the black market where there is no mechanism in place to verify what they're buying isn't cut with something more dangerous.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80830 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:38 am to
Is it transdermal?
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 8:38 am
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32420 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:44 am to
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I've never even seen heroin. When did it become so widespread? The past 10-15 years?



Yeah, it's about that new. You and I grew up in the same area around the same time and I was wasn't exactly scared to try the hard stuff. Heroin wasn't even in the discussion. 5 years ago, I made the rehab circuit for alcohol and heroin was the drug of choice for the younger crowd. Kids from fraternities, high end BR High School, trailer park crowd, you name it. It's infiltrated the younger folks. Like you, I've never even seen it. The first I had heard of it making it's comeback was when a great friends little brother died of it around 2014. I'm quite sure you knew him, KK was his initials. We had all distanced ourselves from him as we grew older and his drug problem lingered, but I was shocked to hear that heroin was what got him.


On that note, I got a random text the other day asking 'if I fuk with that girl or that boy'? It was from a unknown number so it had to be a wrong number. I think 'that girl' is what the gays calls crystal meth so maybe 'that boy' is heroin. I don't know. I considered fricking with them back but then decided against it. Nothing good could come from it. Never heard from them again.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 8:52 am
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:44 am to
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Is it transdermal?


On its own, no. Millions of dollars were spent to research how to turn it into a patch for a transdermal route.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:56 am to
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