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re: DEA to ban Kratom

Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:48 pm to
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akuamma


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chinese and perurvian cats claw


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rhodiola rosea


Welp, off to do research I go.

Any advice on where to start the rabbit hole?
Posted by eljusterina
HAMMOND
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:49 pm to
Ra shop sells it
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13139 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:57 pm to
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VaBamaMan


Is there a good online shop for it? It seems that there's a vast difference between the crap you get at the Ra Shop and finding a reputable online vendor. Any truth to that?
Posted by RegisteredPharmacist
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:58 pm to
How many milligrams of hydrocodone (roughly) does it take to equal 1 bottle of Kratom? As far as euphoria.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45863 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:01 pm to
Most heavy kratom users ordered it off the Internet by the quarter kilo.

Was like 50 bucks for 250g.

Head shops marked it up an insane amount but generally it was of similar quality.

There are a ton of vendors. I don't think I can share them now since it's scheduled.

r/kratom
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:01 pm to
Go get your high somewhere else
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13139 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:03 pm to
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I don't think I can share them now since it's scheduled.


It's not scheduled until Sept 30th.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:03 pm to
The liquid bottles are garbage.

It's tough to compare percocet to kratom because a high dose of kratom would make you nauseous. But for comparisons sake let's say 7-10g of kratom would equal 1 percocet

I don't frick with opiates so idk really.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:05 pm to
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DEA


The absolute most corrupt, arse backwards, malicious, criminal, unnecessary organization in the United States of America.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:05 pm to
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How many milligrams of hydrocodone (roughly) does it take to equal 1 bottle of Kratom? As far as euphoria


Not really how it works. Kratom is sold as either ground up leaves, as powder, or a very concentrated powder. You dose it in the powder by grams/teaspoons. It effects everyone differently, my body doesn't get any opiate effects from it whatsoever. My understanding is that the euphoria can be very understated for most when compared to pills, and especially heroin.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:06 pm to
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RegisteredPharmacist
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How many milligrams of hydrocodone (roughly) does it take to equal 1 bottle of Kratom?


You must suck as a pharmacist
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18703 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:07 pm to
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this shite is no joke. Theres a bar in miami called purple lotus that sells this kava drink. Its on the beach, we thought nothing of it, went in and the bartender joked with me about how big i am being 6'7 that I could handle their biggest drink it was $37 and had 5 doses. Im not kidding this was 4 pm I was asleep by 7 and didnt wake up till 9 the next morning and was still hungover for a few hours the next day. That stuff is awful I dont know if its kava or kratom but whatever it was it knocked me out and that bartender got some mean words from me the next day bc he had given me some crap about it being some islander drink and nothing about what it really was.



I've never tried Kratom, but Kava is AWESOME for anxiety. It's a shame it tastes so goddamn disgusting though.

It is an islander drink (Pacific islands) but obviously you drank way too fricking much. You have to pace yourself just like alcoholic beverages
Posted by RegisteredPharmacist
Member since Apr 2016
830 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:10 pm to
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You must suck as a pharmacist


We don't deal with these silly gas station drugs.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:12 pm to
WHAT THE frick

This is fricking bullshite, it's a harmless plant and nobody has ever died from taking it for thousands of years. frick this damn country.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9313 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:17 pm to
I've always gotten mine from The Kratom King.com. I take about 3-4 of the Maeng Da Kratom capsules to feel a mild opiate like effect. It helps with lower back pain. I dont take it often anymore but when I was withdrawing from hydrocodone it was a lifesaver. Its a shame if its about to be outlawed. It about as harmful as caffeine.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:22 pm to
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Is a bottle of it about the same as popping let's say two 7.5 hydrocodones or is it stronger? Never had it.


its not really anything like vikes in my experience. I got high but it wasn't really like an opiate high, although my wife did puke her guts out on it so maybe it was.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:28 pm to
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Is a bottle of it about the same as popping let's say two 7.5 hydrocodones or is it stronger? Never had it.
IDK, but I would stay way from any kratom you could buy in a store or gas station. Not saying it won't work, but I'm sure if it does it will be a rip off. 14gs were going for like 20-30$ when you can buy an ounce for 6-10$. Plus the ones at head shops and gas stations are promoting it to get f'ed up with. It isn't about that, which won't happen for most, but about helping with pain or opiate reduction.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:32 pm to
Google, but these are good to help one quit kratom, not really to take its place. Meridianbotanicals.com sells a lot of herbs and such and they have a good description for the cats claw and rhodiola rosea. I don't know too much about akuamma though but it is supposed to be pretty good for pain as well.

However, kava is a good one to check out that is a close alternative, or at least some say.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:34 pm to
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The absolute most corrupt, arse backwards, malicious, criminal, unnecessary organization in the United States of America.
I agree. It is pretty obvious when they still kept cannabis as a schedule 1, which means it has no medical value whatsoever.

Yet there are tons of videos of children having seizures up to hundreds a day, taking cannabis (that doesn't get them high) and stopping completely down to just a few a month/year. They are fricking heartless on top of all your descriptions and then some.


edit: The kratomking may have good kratom but it is expensive. You can find vendors selling it $8-10 an oz and with kilos coming to $150 or less for just as good product.

LINK is a good cheap site. kwikkratom.com is another, plus many more (search reddit).
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 4:41 pm
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