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re: DEA announces that marijuana will remain a Schedule 1 drug - like LSD & heroin
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:42 pm to GetCocky11
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:42 pm to GetCocky11
They are idiots. It's a plant.
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:43 pm to Elephino
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. As discussed marijuana is schedule I primarily because it has no approved medical use and is still one of the most abused drugs in existence.
Yet your avatar is of the most dangerous and most abused drug in existence.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:44 pm to Elephino
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Hemp growth was previously required by farmers. Recreational use became stigmatized back in the 1920's.
Thought a big part of making it illegal was because hemp production was a big threat to the paper industry and people in the paper industry wanted it gone.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:44 pm to white_mj
Paper and cotton. Both powerful industries even today.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:49 pm to Elephino
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Frequent, random testing?
Might as well do that now, but they don't. Good luck doing that when it's legal and not testing for every other drug.
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hat if he's tested a week or two after the surgery in question and found to have subtherapeutic levels in his blood? Would it stand to reason the levels were higher during the surgery?
You can't possibly prove he didn't smoke the day or week AFTER the surgery. You cannot prove that he was impaired at the time of the surgery.
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That's what I would argue in court.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:49 pm to Elephino
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As discussed marijuana is schedule I primarily because it has no approved medical use
Then explain dronabinol.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:51 pm to Barf
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Then explain dronabinol.
Because that's synthetic, which is why it's approved, so that they could profit and control production.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:53 pm to jbgleason
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Paper and cotton. Both powerful industries even today.
Forgot about cotton. Another thing that would be a good argument for legalization would be the other uses.....outside of medical. For one i believe the male form of the plant, the one that does not grow buds you can smoke, would be a great crop to create paper out of and be one way to satisfy the green nut jobs when it comes to killing trees.
Allow people to grow this plant...see how it can help the environment, which im sure a bunch of people would like to hear as well.
Not to mention getting stoned is fun.
O and GFY bayourougebengal
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:55 pm to Jester
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Because that's synthetic, which is why it's approved, so that they could profit and control production.
But it's not synthetic. If marijuana has zero medical benefit as suggested by it's schedule I classification, there is no reason for dronabinol to exist.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:55 pm to TheOcean
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Everyone in this thread who is a Republican or Democrat can go frick themselves. You're the real problem.
Truth. I can't imagine why people still think one is superior to the other. Parties are about power, not service.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:56 pm to Napoleon
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Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties,
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The patent lists the use of certain cannabinoids found within the cannabis sativa plant as useful in certain neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and HIV dementia. Since cannabis sativa (marijuana) contains compounds
There is your answer. Cannabinoids (one or many) have been found to have therapeutic properties. Marijuana contains cannabinoids, but is not a singular drug entity. This is not a special or exceptional case. There are a number of drugs that are derived from natural products. They don't become drugs until they are isolated and tested for activity because the source undoubtedly produced a number of other chemicals (all of which are not likely beneficial).
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:56 pm to GetCocky11
fricking crazy.
In a state like LA all the weed money is going to prisons, sheriffs, and the dealers. The dealers are most likely funneling the majority of that money to other states or wherever they are getting it from.
In a state like LA all the weed money is going to prisons, sheriffs, and the dealers. The dealers are most likely funneling the majority of that money to other states or wherever they are getting it from.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:58 pm to sjmabry
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States will just have to do its own thing in regards to MJ.
I wish people would realize that State and Local >>> Federal.
Of course, the second some State passes legislation that someone doesn't like, they'll change their mind.
Nullification is a very good thing.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 2:00 pm to Barf
I'm glad that many people here are informed on the racist and corrupt reasons why the prohibition began in the first place.
If Europeans had used marijuana throughout the centuries like many other cultures, It would've never been made illegal in the first place. And while I love a good drink, it's frustrating that a substance that causes fewer societal harms remains illegal.
If Europeans had used marijuana throughout the centuries like many other cultures, It would've never been made illegal in the first place. And while I love a good drink, it's frustrating that a substance that causes fewer societal harms remains illegal.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 2:04 pm to CCTider
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it's frustrating that a substance that causes fewer societal harms remains illegal.
Instead they would rather imprison a man for 13 years for having 2 grams. That's more damaging to society.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 2:06 pm to dgnx6
Yep. And when that man gets out of jail, he'll be unable to find a decent job, and will end up being an actual criminal
Posted on 8/11/16 at 2:09 pm to dgnx6
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That's more damaging to society.
Too many stupid people vote. They're still convinced prohibition keeps them safer...
Prohibition is far more dangerous than allowing use. The black markets and underground economy are dangerous places
Banning stuff is the enterprising criminals wet dream.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 2:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
Too many stupid people vote.
- Churchill
Posted on 8/11/16 at 2:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Prohibition is far more dangerous than allowing use. The black markets and underground economy are dangerous places
This. Legalize all drugs and you kill the Black market. Less people OD because they are actually getting pure stuff. Less criminals, less over populated prisons, better medicine made with illegal drugs from plants. We live in a fricked up place when a plant is illegal but hey, lets get fricked up on beer and whiskey and drive around awhile, or go beat the shite out of somebody.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 2:13 pm to Jester
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You can't possibly prove he didn't smoke the day or week AFTER the surgery. You cannot prove that he was impaired at the time of the surgery.
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That's what I would argue in court.
So the prosecuting attorney wouldn't call an expert witness to testify about rates of elimination based on intake and use to give an estimation of whether the drug detected was from new or residual clearance and a likely time frame? No proof necessary, just a lot of doubt and calling the surgeon's character into question. Not sure why you're laughing. I've been called as an expert witness in drug cases before. The OT never disappoints.
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