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re: Dayton, OH bar mass shooting - 10 dead, 27 wounded

Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65390 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:11 pm to
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can we not acknowledge both as being serious problems? Why deflect and get defensive over white supremacists becoming mass shooters?


Because the demonization of “white 20’s trump supporters who own guns” is just as bad as demonizing all black or middle eastern males.

Obama voters in inner cities shoot the shite out of each other across America everyday, and in higher numbers. Why should I be singled out?
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:12 pm to
Maybe we just want them to shoot for fun. The law allows and that is not going to change anytime soon. Y’all may as well get over it.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37728 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:12 pm to
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Less than a minute. But yeah, feral hogs are the real threat to America so we need these weapons out there for everyone to buy and use. Less than a damn minute y’all.


Is that not a legitimate reason to own one?

You fricking asked for a legitimate reason why a member of the public would need one.

I gave you a reason.

Why are you moving the goal post now?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:12 pm to
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So.... retort?


It doesn't sound like what you're doing is working.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8748 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:12 pm to
Don’t see how you can limit magazine capacity. There are millions of 30 round mags in existence and circulation now. People aren’t just going to get rid of them.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:12 pm to
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I would think all your self proclaimed gun experts on this forum could connect the dots and see the similarities between all the weapons used in the cited attacks... guess you aren’t all as informed as you like to believe. There is no doesn’t seem to be a need for these in the general population. The dangers posed are greater than the benefits. But y’all continue to just try and cut hairs with your definitions rather than talk about solutions...





These guys will do exactly what they're doing right now.

They'll pontificate the language of "assault rifle" the way a toddler stupidly pontificates his naval, pretending to not get your overall point.

It's a defense mechanism because these frickers know all too well the AK-47 that guy used yesterday is a goddamn assault rifle but because it doesn't have a full auto feature or burst feature, it doesn't meet the definition of assault rifle.

If you haven't been given a link to the definition, someone will post it soon enough.

I'm pro gun, pro second amendment. I've fired weapons like that, they're fun as shite and I believe everyone should be allowed to own them.

What I won't do though is fricking play make believe like the rest of these dipshits and convince myself they're like any other gun. They're not and only an a-hole believes that.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64157 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:13 pm to
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can we not acknowledge both as being serious problems? Why deflect and get defensive over white supremacists becoming mass shooters? A lot of you seem to do this, you get offended about people calling out these incel white kids for what they are and bring up “well black people are just as bad with their thug pos stuff”.



He was killing for the sake of universal healthcare and universal basic income. Explain to me how those are tenets of white supremacy. Is that something they seem to support? What groups support universal healthcare and universal basic income?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70775 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:13 pm to
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We should make murder illegal.


Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65390 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:14 pm to
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In less than a minute the shooter killed 9 people and injured 26... let that sink in. Less than a minute. But yeah, feral hogs are the real threat to America so we need these weapons out there for everyone to buy and use. Less than a damn minute y’all.


In less than a second, the Boston marathon bombers killed 3 and injured 270 using tools found at your local Walmart.

What’s your point?
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55915 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:15 pm to
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But one problem is far bigger than the other. It's not even remotely close
and black on black violence is generally in areas where normal people like you and me aren’t anywhere near and late at night. For these incels, you can go to church or be at a bar or a fking festival in a nice area that’s never had any criminal activity and shoot the place up. Of course gang violence needs some resolution by government officials, but so does this. TD gets mad at black people who downplay or deflect on black murderers, but y’all do the same thing for these incels. Maybe not to the same degree but still enough to where it’s concerning
Posted by clownbaby
beezwacks not yours
Member since Jan 2009
1075 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:16 pm to
It’s not about making a sweeping change that will fix the problem now. It’s making small adjustments that could have an affect years down the road.

Arguing about gun control will get us nowhere. It’s too big of an argument with too many opinions on each side. Figuring out what adjustments could be made to existing policies needs to be the priority
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55915 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:16 pm to
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In less than a second, the Boston marathon bombers killed 3 and injured 270 using tools found at your local Walmart.

What’s your point?
. Our point is you get upset about people calling out white shooters. Like you’re a victim to this. Are you also an incel?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65390 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:16 pm to
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It's a defense mechanism because these frickers know all too well the AK-47 that guy used yesterday is a goddamn assault rifle but because it doesn't have a full auto feature or burst feature, it doesn't meet the definition of assault rifle.


Because hunting rifles or shotguns or anything for that matter can be used in the exact same manner, but because these guns are “scary looking” and black, and bear resemblance to guns that police and military use, then they are assault weapons
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:17 pm to
Its sunday and you're being very emotional online
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:17 pm to
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WHAT IS YOUR frickING POINT?


He probably had one bad experience with a person (ie slept with his gf/bf) who just so happened to be a cc and now he wants to project all cc as d bags to boost his self esteem.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:17 pm to
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I have over 4K acres of land. On that 4K acres of land, I have thousands of invasive feral hogs. These thousands of invasive feral hogs are destroying my property, running off the local wildlife, and stripping my corn and food plots bare.

Invasive feral hogs tend to live in large groups.

When hunting said invasive feral hogs that cause millions in damages every year, it is prudent to be able to send as much lead downrange and hit as many invasive feral hogs as possible in rapid succession before they scatter and run like the vermin they are.


So.... retort?


How many people in this country are in a similar position?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:18 pm to
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In less than a minute the shooter killed 9 people and injured 26... let that sink in.


You just made my point.

As a legal owner of an AR15, and I have 35 people trying to storm my house or family and I have my AR 15, at least I’m comfortable knowing I can defend myself and my family by killing 9 and injuring 26 in less than a minute

That’s my right

And you want to take that away from me
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65390 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Our point is you get upset about people calling out white shooters. Like you’re a victim to this.


Well yeah, i mean I’m a white 20’s gun owning trump supporter, when I see people using these particular factors to stereotype all of this category because of a handful of nutjobs, I’m going to get a little ticked.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64157 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Of course gang violence needs some resolution by government officials, but so does this.



No it doesn't. Government hasnt solved the problem in 60 years. What makes you think theyll solve it now?

The government is terrible at everything. What makes you think they can change things now.


People like you that expect the government to save society are the problem. The government will NEVER be able to stop people from wanting to kill each other. People wanting to kill each other has existed since well...humans ever existed.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:19 pm to
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Is that not a legitimate reason to own one?


So these guys had a feral hog problem on their four acres of land?


In Allen and Dayton? Because while maybe you have that problem and have a need for that type of weapon, every motherfricker in the public domain does not.

And if you cannot acknowledge at least that than I consider you nutty and part of the overall problem.
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