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re: Dave chappelles new special
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:28 pm to JoeNelson
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:28 pm to JoeNelson
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I had made up my mind if he acts like Alton was an innocent victim he would lose me. He handled it nicely.
Dave is the master at straddling the line keeping both sides guessing and the very best at pointing out hypocrisy
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:33 pm to Wallywalrus
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I dont want to have to stop watching his stuff

Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:18 pm to Wallywalrus
I think he did a really good job of talking us through why (he)is pissed and okay with the destruction that is happening on the streets. If people are killed at the hands of police, and some are murdered with no consequence, the public will at some point flip out. The timing for all this to go down was the perfect storm. Forty million people sitting around collecting unemployment was a big help. Don't get me wrong police departments have a lot of good parts to them, but some is out of date and broke. The fricked up parts need to be fixed. 
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:31 pm to Triple Bogey
quote:Seems like it lost you because you didn't listen or comprehend his point. Chappelle never even attempted to justify what Dorner did.
The Chris Dorner thing lost me. I understand the dude went through hell because of speaking out against a fellow officer, but that's still no justification for killing innocent people and their families. frick that dude, he deserved what he got.
quote:Again, not where he was going with that. He even said, wondered aloud WTF is going in in the military that these things kept happening by dudes who were former military.
I also thought him conflating the idea that these people who were murdering cops were trained to "fight terror" was complete bullshite. The cops who died in Dallas/Baton Rouge/LA had nothing to do with the situations that led to those events.. Just as far as I know, innocent police officers doing their jobs.
quote:Is it just a coincidence that it was dudes who were former miltary?
I understand the connection he is trying to make, but those things have nothing to do with each other.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:01 pm to Triple Bogey
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The Chris Dorner thing lost me. I understand the dude went through hell because of speaking out against a fellow officer, but that's still no justification for killing innocent people and their families. frick that dude, he deserved what he got.
I also thought him conflating the idea that these people who were murdering cops were trained to "fight terror" was complete bullshite. The cops who died in Dallas/Baton Rouge/LA had nothing to do with the situations that led to those events.. Just as far as I know, innocent police officers doing their jobs.
I understand the connection he is trying to make, but those things have nothing to do with each other. And if your solution for wrongdoing is to murder innocent people, then the message you are trying to convey has lost all its meaning
Congrats for literally missing every point Dave made on these subjects completely
Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:12 pm to musick
Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:15 pm to Wallywalrus
frick Dave Chappelle and that stupid fricking shite I just watched.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 7:49 am to RidiculousHype
It’s an agent of the government killing someone who was already subdued on the street. Surely you can understand the difference between that and civilian on civilian murder.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 7:52 am to Rize
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frick Dave Chappelle and that stupid fricking shite I just watched
Yep
Posted on 6/13/20 at 7:54 am to TheBaker
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Plus, good ole Alton actually shot himself through his pocket trying to shoot the cops.
Saint Alton?
No way that fine upstanding citizen would even think or attempt to do that.
No Jussice. No Peas.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:00 am to TIGER2
quote:Really? Explain please.
I think he did a really good job of talking us through why (he)is pissed and okay with the destruction that is happening on the streets
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:05 am to shel311
quote:You'd have to figure how many exmilitary make up police forces and how many incidents nationwide are occurring. It's probably not that significant of a link to military service.
Is it just a coincidence that it was dudes who were former miltary?
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:36 am to Wallywalrus
Just watched. Always enjoy Dave Chapelle whether he is crushing it comedic style or giving social commentary with just some humor sprinkled in. And like he said, part of the reason why is because I trust that he is being honest. Doesn’t mean he is 100% right on everything, but I can trust that he believes in what he’s saying. And you get that from this special no doubt.
Which makes how he ended the special very interesting:
So makes you wonder, how far is this really from regular gunfights in the streets and how bad is it going to get? All I know is be prepared to protect your own because you never know when the shite is going to turn on you and somebody is going to see you as the enemy.
Even in this special Dave discussed the 9 cops who were killed in Dallas. Dave doesn’t quite praise the shooter, but damn sure doesn’t condemn him either. Those 9 cops weren’t at fault for the killing that started the preceding protest. They were just regular folks doing their job until one guy snapped and said all cops are the enemy.
What about if someone snaps and decides that all “privileged suburbanites are the enemy”? Be prepared to protect your own because that is all that matters.
Which makes how he ended the special very interesting:
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This is the last stronghold for civil discourse. After this shite, it’s just rat a tat rat a tat tat tat!
So makes you wonder, how far is this really from regular gunfights in the streets and how bad is it going to get? All I know is be prepared to protect your own because you never know when the shite is going to turn on you and somebody is going to see you as the enemy.
Even in this special Dave discussed the 9 cops who were killed in Dallas. Dave doesn’t quite praise the shooter, but damn sure doesn’t condemn him either. Those 9 cops weren’t at fault for the killing that started the preceding protest. They were just regular folks doing their job until one guy snapped and said all cops are the enemy.
What about if someone snaps and decides that all “privileged suburbanites are the enemy”? Be prepared to protect your own because that is all that matters.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:50 am to Indubitably
quote:Sadly, many people can't understand the difference.
It’s an agent of the government killing someone who was already subdued on the street. Surely you can understand the difference between that and civilian on civilian murder
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:42 am to NotoriousFSU
quote:This was my takeaway as well. He has a way of weaving together a bunch of stories and ideas together to paint a picture. That picture better demonstrates what the collective is trying to convey, without all of the nonsense we are constantly bombarded with by hysterical and performative people.
I’m not sure how to feel about it yet. It hasn’t completely sunk in, but it has made me reflect on what’s going on in the world today differently than how I had been before watching it. Not saying I agree or disagree with his words. Just that I appreciate what he said.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:10 am to The Torch
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Does he say the N word ?
He calls Floyd the N word alot. And refers to a white person as an N word.
Someone needs to tell Skai Jackson!
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:15 am to shel311
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WTF is going in in the military that these things kept happening by dudes who were former military.
To paraphrase Gunny Hartman, Charles Whitman and Lee Harvey Oswald were trained killing machines.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:11 pm to Wallywalrus
Dave happens to be Black. He is angry and tired of the crap. I understand why Dave is angry. We all laughed at his Killing them Softly special. Quite a bit of that special was dedicated to his white friend, Chip. Chip got away with being high and speeding. Chip told the officer, “I didn’t know I couldn’t do that”... He talked about how cops would “sprinkle some crack on them” and leave. How a black man hung pictures of his family on the wall after he burglarized a home. Why is that special a legend of stand up?? Why do we all love that show?? We laugh at things we identify with, don’t we?? We would stare at it with a blank face if we had no clue what he was talking about. It wouldn’t be funny at all. That show and Dave’s content has been historically racially driven. That show is probably 20 years old and the stuff we all laughed at is obviously still relevant. Dave or whoever wrote that material, wrote it because he experienced those types of situations daily. Comedians labeled as controversial often receive that label because they have content that is Taboo, or it’s “not something we should be hearing”. I can’t think of a White person that I have come into contact with over the years who doesn’t love Dave Chappelle. Do we hate him now because he speaks about some of the same topics in a different manner??? Dave stated that he did not want to do his recent show.Its really not a show or standup at all. It’s his version of a Ted talk, imo. Maybe he did that because he knows that he has a very large White fan base. Maybe he thought it was his duty to reach some of them. Did he??? Are we just gonna say, “I’m done with him”??? Think about that before you downvote me into oblivion. I and likely most of you vote Republican 99% of the time. Do we have to ignore the fact that issues he talks about have been going on for decades??? We need to stop picking sides and drawing lines in the sand. Everyone should look at where all of these issues stem from. Police reform or labeling all of them as racists is not gonna fix everything. Black folks need to look at the reasons why cops look at or approach them differently. The government needs to figure out why they may be responsible for Blacks remaining in poverty, or why Welfare and other programs cause issues. The justice system needs to look at why Blacks receive longer prison terms than Whites. Why do some Black kids think that their only way out is the NFL or NBA ??? These are the tough questions Fox News or CNN only bring to light is small segments. I’m sure I will get “ Did not read” or “Libtard” incoming, and thats fine. You can smile and pat yourself on the back as you count your upvotes. You can feel special because some agrees with you. Social media is doing more harm than good in this country. That a damn shame! If we can’t discuss this in a “forum”, where can we talk about it? Sorry this is so long but too me these topics can’t be discussed with one sentence. One sentence or a tweet can easily be taken the wrong way. Drew Brees got labeled a racist for making a comment about the flag and country he loves. Drew Brees is now hearing “I done with him” or “ he is “giving in to the mob”. Maybe if he would have fully explained himself or listened to how others felt he wouldn’t have made the comment. Maybe he would have fully explained himself initially. Something tells me Drew Brees is not a racist. He is just one example of how social media, and media as a whole is tearing us apart.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:44 pm to OsTiger78
Paragraphs would lend more credulity and perhaps even more authority to what you speak of.
Restructuring might help, too. Otherwise, this comes across as an angry, ranting wall of text ain’t nobody gonna read.

Restructuring might help, too. Otherwise, this comes across as an angry, ranting wall of text ain’t nobody gonna read.
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