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Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:31 am to Salmon
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why not?
So the whole autobahn thing went right over your head?
We supposedly know how old the Earth is
We know how far the autobahn runs
Evolution doesnt fit into the age of the Earth nor universes accepted timelines
We can determine how long it takes to complete the autobahn at particular speeds
So to reach an acceptable time for evolution, we have to insert GIANT leaps of exaggerated growth
To traverse the autobahn quickest, there were no speed limits
But with GIANT leaps of evolution we have to also claim stasis, to explain sapiens not advancing AT ALL, for like ever
In order to travel safely on the autobahn, we introduced speed limits. Which would absolutely destroy the reason for ever building the autobahn
(and yes, there are now speed limits on many parts of the autobahn)
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:32 am to Barbellthor
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I did in the comment he responded with nothingness to
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I mean. This is a universe of order. Intelligence. It is only logical to suspect its creator is ordered/intelligent/logical.
where, exactly, is the data and analysis in this comment? You made a statement and then made a conclusion based off nothing other than the statement.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:32 am to deltadummy
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Got it. No explanation/proof of why one deity is the true answer, over another.
But you agree that a superior, transcendent deity created it all?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:32 am to Barbellthor
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For the "smart" people, atheists sure are smug retards.
I am Catholic, I am not an atheist. At best there are times when I am deep down agnostic, but I do make a conscious choice to believe.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:35 am to RobbBobb
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So the whole autobahn thing went right over your head?
It did not.
I'm still not seeing any reason to not believe the punctuated equilibrium theory other than "this answers a lot of questions about the evolution timeline and I don't like that, therefore I don't believe it"
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:36 am to Fun Bunch
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I really don't care
Deflection. Just own it.
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The point was stupid, there was no point in going into detail.
So you're just the neighborhood idiot bully who got called out and says, "I don't have to explain myself bro cuz it was all just stupid anyway. I'm taking the ball and going home."
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:38 am to Barbellthor
I don't even know what point you are trying to make.
There is no evidence of "order" or intelligent design in the universe
There is no evidence of "order" or intelligent design in the universe
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:38 am to Fun Bunch
quote:It's more accurate to say his arguments have been outright rejected for misrepresenting biology.
This guy has been debunked many many many times
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:40 am to RobbBobb
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But with GIANT leaps of evolution we have to also claim stasis, to explain sapiens not advancing AT ALL, for like ever
For ever? Homo sapiens have not been around for that long.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:41 am to Salmon
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where, exactly, is the data and analysis in this comment?
Notice I said analysis "or" data. Not the conjuctive. I made a logical analysis based on an observation of the nature of the universe--it appears to be ordered. He had the opportunity to respond with anything: analysis, data, or any observation whatsoever. All he gave was "nuh uh."
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:43 am to Fun Bunch
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There is no evidence of "order" or intelligent design in the universe
except the whole one planet in the entire known universe with life, and not just some life, a complex biome where each piece of life has a clear purpose.Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:46 am to Salmon
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"this answers a lot of questions about the evolution timeline
But it doesnt
Its just their best made up guess to fit their convoluted timeline. And a very poor one
But some people accept it. I just dont
I accept the theory of vacuum decay. Everything in the universe is decaying, not evolving. And you witness the decay all around on a daily basis. Now multiply that by billions of years. The only exception would be from a force acting from outside our closed system; a God
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:46 am to Salmon
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where, exactly, is the data and analysis in this comment? You made a statement and then made a conclusion based off nothing other than the statement.
Turns out people who like to label others as smug retards tend to be smug retards themselves.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:47 am to The Pirate King
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except the whole one planet in the entire known universe with life, and not just some life, a complex biome where each piece of life has a clear purpose.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:49 am to Fun Bunch
What are you questioning exactly? Are you one of those that believes there's aliens out there with absolutely zero proof of them?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:49 am to Alyosha
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I’ve worked with Stephen on a number of occasions at Cambridge. It’s easy to write him off as “just another ID guy” from a keyboard, but continuously and presently Cambridge, Oxford, and the Royal Society do not. He’s well respected within the scientific community for such discussions.
No he isn't. A university hosting a speaker isn’t scientific endorsement. Meyer isn’t regarded as a respected biologist, and his arguments aren’t accepted in evolutionary science. If he were actually “well respected” in the field, that would show up in citations, collaborations, grants, or empirical publications. It doesn’t. He doesn’t hold a research position in biology, doesn’t publish original work in mainstream journals, and his conclusions are wholly rejected by the field.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:54 am to Barbellthor
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I made a logical analysis based on an observation of the nature of the universe--it appears to be ordered.
Except this isn't what your original post said at all. You didn't analyze anything. You simply stated that the universe IS ordered.
A declarative statement devoid of any analysis or data to support such declaration.
smug retard and all that
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:01 pm to deltadummy
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You're right. Evolution is false. A superior being created life, and the being sent his word to Mohammad through the Qu'ran.
We're done here, right?
Not exactly. I think it might have been Jah who sent his word to Haile Selassie I. Smoke a spleef and all will be revealed.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:02 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Thank you for going back and seeing who said what. Perhaps it is implicit or presumed, but to lay it out as it is always said in this conversation: gravity, chemistry, F=MA, light refraction, even evolution broadly speaking. These are all examples of "order" in the physical universe--they work, consistently. This is how this conversation always goes. I simply gave Dr. John Lennox's position in my original post. That's my analysis. FunBunch responded with "nuh uh."
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