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re: Dan Carlin Hardcore History Addendum - History on Fire
Posted on 6/29/19 at 5:56 pm to alajones
Posted on 6/29/19 at 5:56 pm to alajones
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You may as well erase that initial post. No one is bothering to read your explanations.
It's the hive mind here. The hear a right vs left jab and they're immediately on the attack. Which is why trolling them in other threads is so much fun.
This is what happens when you try to be serious. Your actual thoughts get ignored and then you're just going to lose by default due to the sheer numbers of the thing.
It is good to see who on here likes to think outside the box though.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 5:58 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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A leftist position
Interesting. Facts are now a leftist position. You're not worth having a conservation with either apparently. I had some hope of it but when you just outright deny reality theres not much to discuss.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 5:59 pm to upgrayedd
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why you think this country has shifted right.
Because of the Cold War. And no one wanted to be a communist. Move to the right so we don’t get labeled as left.
In God We Trust, One Nation, Under God
The national security state. The addiction to the military complex. Agree or don’t agree, fine, but those are some of the reasons.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 5:59 pm to EarlyCuyler3
quote:Do you understand what a hive mind is? Because their are people all over the spectrum arguing both sides.
It's the hive mind here.
quote:Trolling is for people who can’t keep up in a real debate. Which is demonstrated by your woe is me attitude right here
Which is why trolling them in other threads is so much fun.
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This is what happens when you try to be serious. Your actual thoughts get ignored and then you're just going to lose by default due to the sheer numbers of the thing.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:01 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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The free version is out there.
And yet you couldn't be bothered to find it and link it, which was supposedly the reason for this thread.
Let me do it for you then:
Carlin on History on Fire
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:01 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Facts are now a leftist position.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:01 pm to alajones
Exactly. It was also seizing the opportunity to try and shape the economic future of the country as they saw fit.
It's funny how Nazis are now left wing when they're about as far right as you can get.
It's funny how Nazis are now left wing when they're about as far right as you can get.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:03 pm to alajones
quote:The Cold War was 30 years ago and now more and more people have no problem being labeled a socialist, which is much closer to communism than anything else in this country. And wearing a Che Guevara t shirt is in style. So again, the country has moved to the left, not the right.
Because of the Cold War. And no one wanted to be a communist. Move to the right so we don’t get labeled as left.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:03 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Raising taxes is a right wing position?
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:04 pm to EarlyCuyler3
You're such a crybaby bitch.
Defend your position instead of whine and threaten to take your ball and go home when someone attacks it.
Every major corporation just spent a month pandering to gays and you're in here saying without any actual evidence that the country has shifted right.
Prove it.
Defend your position instead of whine and threaten to take your ball and go home when someone attacks it.
Every major corporation just spent a month pandering to gays and you're in here saying without any actual evidence that the country has shifted right.
Prove it.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:05 pm to EarlyCuyler3
That’s like the third time Nazis have been brought up in this conversation. It’s ridiculous. The electorate as a whole is much closer to Stalinism than it is to Nazis.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:06 pm to alajones
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Because of the Cold War. And no one wanted to be a communist. Move to the right so we don’t get labeled as left.
Well, that is clearly no longer the case.
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In God We Trust, One Nation, Under God
No longer the case anymore either
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The national security state
That's very much bipartisan
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The addiction to the military complex. Agree or don’t agree, fine, but those are some of the reasons.
You can make that case
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:08 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Ah, my mistake. I re-read it and saw what you meant. I think I've misread your entire position. My bad, I was wrong. It also goes back to that entire discussion over what right vs left actually means.
In the sense you're saying it, I think, you're right. I was meaning more in the sense of the common day meaning of it.
That's also why I favor the liberty or freedom vs state continuum. The whole right vs left is just a smokescreen designed to keep people infighting and not seeing the bigger issues.
In the sense you're saying it, I think, you're right. I was meaning more in the sense of the common day meaning of it.
That's also why I favor the liberty or freedom vs state continuum. The whole right vs left is just a smokescreen designed to keep people infighting and not seeing the bigger issues.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:10 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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It's funny how Nazis are now left wing when they're about as far right as you can get.
They were a socialist party. That's not really a right wing position.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:10 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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Every major corporation just spent a month pandering to gays and you're in here saying without any actual evidence that the country has shifted right.
You're an idiot. If you read what I said you would have realized I already addressed things like that.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:11 pm to upgrayedd
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They were a socialist party. That's not really a right wing position.
Why dont you actually LISTEN to the podcast before opening your ignorant mouth.
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:14 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Why dont you actually LISTEN to the podcast before opening your ignorant mouth.
Na·zi
/nätse/
a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Socialism
Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management,as well as the political theories and movements associated with them. Social ownership can be public, collective or cooperative ownership, or citizen ownership of equity.
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:14 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Yeah I read where you said we should ignore any evidence that doesn't fit your argument.
Got anything else?
Got anything else?
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:15 pm to EarlyCuyler3
You knew exactly what you were doing when you posted that “it’s amazing how far right the country has shifted” line earlier 
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:16 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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No it's not. It's pretty clear how this country has shifted much more to the right economically.
You’re right, the New Deal, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the Great Society, Obamacare, Medicare/Medicaid for all, free college for all, monthly stipends from the government. and going after the “1%” are all right wing policies/beliefs.
I’m sure many more can go further into the weeds than I regarding economic policies of both parties and where they’ve screwed the citizenry. However, every single major increase in the size of government over the size of my wallet has come at the hands of left wing politicians.
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 6:31 pm
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