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re: CV19 deaths down 10% from last Sunday, 273 deaths today, lowest Sunday since 3/22
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:31 pm to Joshjrn
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:31 pm to Joshjrn
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I love everyone downvoting any post that reasonably points out that deaths are a lagging indicator
Never change, TD <3
What about hospitalizations? Kinda hard for deaths to go up dramatically when hospitalizations aren't. You're not gonna have what happened in March happen again, no matter how much you pray for it
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:34 pm to notiger1997
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Can you imagine what this country would be like if we ever did have real pandemic with like 15% of the population dying or something like that?
well that would kill something like 50 million Americans and over a billion people worldwide and presumably hospitalize at least double that so......not good.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You bullying bro? Toya tryin’ to work.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Of the 100 LSU students that were "infected" last week, how many are sick, how many are in hospital, how many are asymptomatic?
We need to be smart and those exposed do not visit the elderly, the sick, and the very young...its not hard!
We need to be smart and those exposed do not visit the elderly, the sick, and the very young...its not hard!
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:54 pm to Joshjrn
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I love everyone downvoting any post that reasonably points out that deaths are a lagging indicator Never change, TD <3
It is mostly people less than 35 years old that are getting it right now.
Deaths won’t be in the same ballpark in comparison to April/May
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:56 pm to doya2
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Remember how bad Italy and Spain were?
3 deaths in Spain yesterday
8 in Italy
And they reopened, right?
I kind of feel like the first wave basically took out a large chunk of the at-risk population, while working its way through the nursing homes too.
I think this wave will be more young people out and about passing it to each other. If it is as contagious as the "experts" say it is, and the virus was likely spreading in the United States all the way back to December and January, then it's likely that the majority of Americans have already been exposed to it at some point.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:57 pm to notiger1997
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But muh hot spots
Theoretically, wouldn't deaths be lagging behind hotspot increases anyway?
So if there are increases / hotspots - wouldn't we expect to see deaths increase a week or two thereafter?
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:58 pm to doya2
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Remember how bad Italy and Spain were?
3 deaths in Spain yesterday
8 in Italy
Assuming those numbers are correct that’s wonderful news
What is the cause of their significant downturn in deaths? Lockdown? Time to run its course? I honestly have no idea.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:58 pm to notiger1997
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Can you imagine what this country would be like if we ever did have real pandemic with like 15% of the population dying or something like that?
Totally unprepared and with no idea how to quarantine, track the virus, control the spread, etc.?
Yes I can imagine and it would be terrible.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:59 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Theoretically yes. But places have been in phase 2 for much longer than 2 weeks and deaths continue to decline across the country. The truth is that the vulnerable population got hammered early in places like NYC and NOLA and Seattle. That’s just not happening again
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:01 pm to MikeBRLA
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What is the cause of their significant downturn in deaths? Lockdown? Time to run its course? I honestly have no idea.
I've seen the excellent numbers coming out of areas in Europe.
I've been curious about how as well but I don't trust the media enough to look it up and buy whatever they say.
How shitty is that?
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:05 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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So if there are increases / hotspots - wouldn't we expect to see deaths increase a week or two thereafter?
Yeah, but I read somewhere that 43% of the positive tests in Florida are people under 30 years old. Literally none of those people are going to die.
I seriously doubt we see anywhere near the same spike in deaths or hospitalizations.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:06 pm to MikeBRLA
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Assuming those numbers are correct that’s wonderful news
What is the cause of their significant downturn in deaths? Lockdown? Time to run its course? I honestly have no idea.
A few studies and multiple doctors out of Italy are showing that the virus has weakened considerably. People who are testing positive are presenting with a viral load significantly lower than a couple of months ago. In some cases, the viral load is so low that some positive people are starting to be considered non contagious. I've seen more than one study of this in more than one area of Italy, and I'm not really even looking for much stuff anymore. I've also seen these new finding existing and promoted right along beside articles stating that the virus is much more virulent than thought and it is getting worse. So....TIFWIW.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:13 pm to Pintail
I know what your saying but the curves are not matching up. The case count plateaud in may while the deaths kept dropping. It's time for the chicken littles to admit that the real benefit of the summer is better equipped immune systems full of vitamin D. There have also been studies that suggest the human immune system is less inflammatory in the summer.
With all of that being said the cold weather will change most of this.
With all of that being said the cold weather will change most of this.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:23 pm to Freight Joker
I’m not claiming this is scientific, but merely an observation. My younger brother rings and bags groceries full time until school starts. It’s a compact, popular store. Shortly after the virus hit the metro here in mid April, 7 clerks tested positive over a 2 week period and were quarantined after having flu symptoms. 4 of them older clerks.
They haven’t had any employee test positive for almost 2 months now. I think it’s somewhat likely he and most clerks were exposed and asymptomatic. Lives at home and parents haven’t gotten sick. It’s a weird virus that we still don’t know exactly how it attacks, but I think a larger portion of the population has contracted it especially here in a state that never shut down and continues to see % positive tests decline week to week
They haven’t had any employee test positive for almost 2 months now. I think it’s somewhat likely he and most clerks were exposed and asymptomatic. Lives at home and parents haven’t gotten sick. It’s a weird virus that we still don’t know exactly how it attacks, but I think a larger portion of the population has contracted it especially here in a state that never shut down and continues to see % positive tests decline week to week
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:26 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Theoretically yes. But places have been in phase 2 for much longer than 2 weeks and deaths continue to decline across the country. The truth is that the vulnerable population got hammered early in places like NYC and NOLA and Seattle. That’s just not happening again
I'm fine with those conclusions - but the death count won't really be proof of that for another week or so correct?
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
People can’t seem to grasp that if people catch this but masses aren’t dying then it doesn’t matter how many people get it. You catch it, you’re sick for a few days, you go back to school/work. Just like... wait for it... the flu.
Cases are spiking. So what. We’re testing way more than we ever have and less people are dying.
Cases are spiking. So what. We’re testing way more than we ever have and less people are dying.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:32 pm to LegendInMyMind
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People who are testing positive are presenting with a viral load significantly lower than a couple of months ago.
Good to know. This in addition to the fact that there are more people testing is why I personally don’t really look at the number of cases when looking into are we doing better or worse. I look at hospitalizations and deaths.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:32 pm to Eat Your Crow
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Remember how bad Italy and Spain were?
3 deaths in Spain yesterday
8 in Italy
And they reopened, right?
Deaths are way, way down in Sweden. They never shut.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
But...muh spike
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