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re: Curtis Reeves,Retired Cop Who Fatally shot man in a Theater for Throwing Popcorn Acquitted
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:55 am to getyouinavacant
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:55 am to getyouinavacant
im just happy Chad guy was white.
Gramps should be too
probaly a good reason why I never even heard of this case until now
Gramps should be too
probaly a good reason why I never even heard of this case until now
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:57 am to Yellerhammer5
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Hate to bust your boomer fantasy
Not a boomer and not a fantasy, that a-hole is still dead!
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:58 am to ole man
Another fact in the case not discussed yet... dude's wife was shot in the hand b/c she was trying to pull him away and he was having none of it
Even his beloved couldn't stop him from accosting the old man
Even his beloved couldn't stop him from accosting the old man
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:23 am to rt3
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Even his beloved couldn't stop him from accosting the old man
Yep. The facts support Reeves being calm and rational if not mildly annoyed, while Oulson was unhinged because someone dared asking him to follow the rules.
I think most here are falling for the sensationalism of "murdered over popcorn."
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:24 am to SoFla Tideroller
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If you think a State's Attorney's office did any favors to a cop, retired or not, in today's political climate you have completely misapprehended the situation - especially in a Democratic area like Tampa.
Reeves wasn’t “just a cop”, he retired as a captain after decades in law enforcement.
If you are proposing that didn’t play into his favor, I think you’re being disingenuous.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:38 am to rt3
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vs. an early 40-something who's 6-3 200+ lbs
They reported multiple times when this occurred that the aggressor was 6'8' tall.
Is this one of those things like "Paul Pelosi opened the door and there was now no third person" things where the narrative needed changed the facts?
Has Ourso been shrunken to 6'3" in the new tellings? Maybe if they had put his crying wife on TV another few hundred times, and sitting her crying, in the courtroom, been punctuated with a few wails, they could have won, without having to lie aboot it being only over tossed popcorn.
You know, just a little tossed popcorn in a friendly situation, then the crazy geezer shot the hero.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:44 am to TCO
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He could have pulled the gun and not pulled the trigger?
I see that enough people have answered you so that you can now be aware that you should never do this.
Also, don't point finger guns at cops and holler BANG!
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:46 am to Damone
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If you draw and aim at someone without shooting you’ve just proven you didn’t need to draw and use it to prevent imminent harm.
That’s what we are taught, but it is overly simplistic and probably leads to people needlessly being shot.
Cops draw without firing all the time. Why is it ok for them but not for other people when faced with danger?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:54 am to Hangit
quote:Because old dude agreed to give her something?
Why was the wife given anything civilly for her husband attacking an old dude and getting kilt for it?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:58 am to shel311
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Because old dude agreed to give her something?
You misspelled "was forced"
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:03 am to Earnest_P
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Cops draw without firing all the time. Why is it ok for them but not for other people when faced with danger?
How many felony traffic stops or drug raids have you been involved in as an armed citizen?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:18 am to TCO
quote:I have no dog in this fight, could be swayed either way.
Secondly, popcorn and a cell phone toss is not a deadly threat, so he cannot respond with deadly force.
But don't some(maybe all?) places have laws around assaulting elders? Point being, throwing a phone and hitting an older person, could that not be considered a felony assault?
Again, I'm not discussing right or wrong or what should have been done, just asking if that act, which is obviously assault, is also considered a felony being done against an old person.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:20 am to Hangit
quote:Can you elaborate specific to this case?
You misspelled "was forced"
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:25 am to Earnest_P
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That’s what we are taught, but it is overly simplistic and probably leads to people needlessly being shot.
Cops draw without firing all the time. Why is it ok for them but not for other people when faced with danger?
I have questioned this myself. I think it's one of those questionable orthodoxies that tends to emerge from online circle jerks, which is unfortunately what concealed carry has become.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:28 am to shel311
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I have no dog in this fight, could be swayed either way.
But don't some(maybe all?) places have laws around assaulting elders? Point being, throwing a phone and hitting an older person, could that not be considered a felony assault?
Again, I'm not discussing right or wrong or what should have been done, just asking if that act, which is obviously assault, is also considered a felony being done against an old person.
In the video from Nick Rekieta I linked on page 1 (?) of this thread... Florida definitely has a law like this considering its aged population
Rekieta clearly states that... by Florida law... a forcible felony was in the process of being committed by the deceased at the time he was shot
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 11:28 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:29 am to shel311
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Can you elaborate specific to this case?
No, but thanks for asking. Until somebody earlier said she settled with him and the theater, I was unaware she had received a nickel for her husband's bad acts.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 11:30 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:30 am to getyouinavacant
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getyouinavacant
Who got banned recently?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:32 am to Damone
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Never draw a firearm and aim unless you’re going to use it.
True
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If you draw and aim at someone without shooting you’ve just proven you didn’t need to draw and use it to prevent imminent harm.
Nonsense. If I’m running accross the street screaming I’m going to murder you with a knife in my hand and you draw a gun so I run away without you shooting me…. You’re saying you didn’t need to draw the gun?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:36 am to rt3
quote:Definitely an interesting case.
Rekieta clearly states that... by Florida law... a forcible felony was in the process of being committed by the deceased at the time he was shot
I can see the side that says this hasn't escalated to the point of pulling out a gun and shooting someone.
But when you frame it as the person who was shot was in the act of committing felony assault, it kinda seems tough to then argue that you can't protect yourself from felony assault by shooting said person committing that crime.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 11:39 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:42 am to shel311
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Definitely an interesting case.
I can see the side that says this hasn't escalated to the point of pulling out a gun and shooting someone.
But when you frame it as the person who was shot was in the act of committing felony assault, it kinda seems tough to then argue that you can't protect yourself from felony assault by shooting said person committing that crime.
The forcible felony of someone over 65 years old law was in the jury instructions too... so they were told to consider it in their deliberations
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