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re: Crazy DoorDash experience last night

Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37532 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:33 am to
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waiters want 20% tip to walk your food normally about 25 feet.

Not just that also, bring multiple things, refill drinks, answer questions and anything else we need while dining.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162040 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:52 am to
yeah I don't really use the food delivery services....but tipping on the front end seems arse backwards to me.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17979 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:54 am to
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yeah I don't really use the food delivery services


Really any delivery service. Grocery ones are bad too.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17618 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:54 am to
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yeah I don't really use the food delivery services....but tipping on the front end seems arse backwards to me.



I think you have to do it sometimes in order for a driver to accept the job.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17618 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:58 am to
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I'm not complaining. I'm making $2K extra a month off of them. I sit at my house working my other job in the day time and take a few decent orders just to get out of the house, and a few hours in the evening.


What vehicle do you drive for this job?

I'm assuming you writeoff the mileage on your taxes...
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2380 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:00 am to
I waited tables and delivered food. Delivery is wayyyyyyy easier. You are doing one thing, bringing the food. Waiting tables is serving someone throughout their entire meal. Totally different. I always expected a standard tip based on the size of the check when waiting tables. A couple bucks was fine for delivery even if it was a $100 order. I wasn't working any harder. Huge deliveries were obviously different. Nowadays I feel like everyone keeps moving the goal posts on wmwgat is acceptable and drivers now thi k they need 20%.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33887 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:10 am to
I usually go with a max tip just because I don't want spit in my food.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84643 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:11 am to
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I waited tables and delivered food. Delivery is wayyyyyyy easier
I've done both as well and I 100% agree
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
8224 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:22 am to
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but the whole point of ordering take out imo is to avoid all the bull shite tips


Take out is you go pick it up yourself.Ordering where someone else has to get out in the weather, fight traffic, deal with the restaurant, and use their own gas deserves a 15% - 20% tip minimum.
Posted by NC17
Member since Feb 2010
2782 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:29 am to
She probably had her kids with her and didn't want to leave them alone.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1333 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:35 am to
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I'm not complaining. I'm making $2K extra a month off of them. I sit at my house working my other job in the day time and take a few decent orders just to get out of the house, and a few hours in the evening.


I have my own business and there are some weeks were it's incredibly slow. So I looked at what I could do that was interesting to do with that time. I've been doing food delivery for free all this time for my family and it was no big deal. So now I decided to go and get paid for it. I've had some great orders and I've had some real learning experiences. You learn pretty quick who will have food ready and who has their lobbies open so it's easy to pick up.

I've seen parts of my town now that I wouldn't have ever gone to if not for DD. Usually not delivering to high end neighborhoods/houses. Most of the time it's apartments where people don't have cars or they have 1 car and someone else is using it for work. My oddest delivery was a shopping at Dollar General for 1- 20oz coke. Delivering 3 miles and being paid $7 for it. So they paid like $10 for a regular bottle of coke. Which is stupid, but so is using DD if you have the ability to go and get it.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:36 am to
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waiters want 20% tip to walk your food normally about 25 feet.

Not just that also, bring multiple things, refill drinks, answer questions and anything else we need while dining.

Most professions require that you do multiple things. Most professions don't ask that tips supplement wage. I participate but will never understand how industry has conned the consumer into paying for goods/services while also subsidizing the labor cost. It's like a bank charging you a fee to borrow your money.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9752 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:39 am to
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She probably had her kids with her and didn't want to leave them alone.


As much sympathy as I have, if this is the case she shouldn't be doing this job. Sometimes the job requires you to go into hotels, take an elevator, and drop off at a room down a long hallway. If you zoom in on the drop off location, you can see if it's taking you there.

Don't do this job with a dog in your car. Don't do it with kids in the car. If you want to do with your spouse/partner that's a different story as they have the agency to sit calmly and take care of themselves if trouble strikes.

I understand, what else is she to do? I don't know. There are lots of situations in which people are slim on options. It's tough. Asking for an extra tip is just being an a-hole.
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
4967 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:39 am to
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I am a single mother of two


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I left a generous tip


Here's a generous tip to her. Make better decisions.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72229 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:39 am to
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Ordering where someone else has to get out in the weather, fight traffic, deal with the restaurant, and use their own gas deserves a 15% - 20% tip minimum.


If tips aren't up to your liking then get another job. You should not be begging for more of a tip.

From a quick google and I could be wrong, Doordash drivers make $25 per hour plus 100% of the tips.

What would factor in to me as a tipper is the city and how far the travel is.

I'm sorry, but I just don't agree that it should automatically be a 15-20% tip for a delivery person. Some orders are incredibly expensive, but I don't think that means the delivery driver deserves more for their particular services.

These drivers, from my understanding, have the right to accept a lot of these deliveries. Often they can see the tip ahead of time. They can factor in if it's worth their time or it's a busy place. And maybe that isn't always the case depending upon the company.

If they are getting $25 an hour and also getting enough tips to cover gas at minimum then I think that's a decent job. Like okay you go out in weather, but the weather isn't always bad. And that's the job. Picking up food and delivering it.

If anything I think some of these grocery shoppers on instacart deserve more of a tip than these other drivers. They actually go in the store and shop your items and are in contact for replacements, etc.

Say for example I have a pickup from McDonalds and some rich steakhouse. They are next to each other and a block from me. Why should I tip one more if it's the same time and distance? Also, factor in I'm already paying a delivery fee. And also, often times, the McDonalds wait might be much longer getting in and out.

This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 10:49 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:40 am to
You almost got shanked.

Better just start going out to eat.
Dashers are often super sketchy.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1333 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:42 am to
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From a quick google and I could be wrong, Doordash drivers make $25 per hour plus 100% of the tips.


This isn't remotely true. I don't beg for tips. I just don't take trips that don't pay. The problem is DD gets the customer to pay for the drivers. I don't view it as a tip or no tip. I view it as a bid for my delivery services. If the bid is too low then I don't go.

If you do pay by the hour it's like $12 plus you keep tips but you can't decline more than one an hr. That is a trap though. You won't make anything and will probably end up losing money each night if you do their pay by the hour way.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 10:45 am
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2642 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:43 am to
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the last thing I was is someone like this person handling my food
If you'd bothered to read the OP, you'd know that her conversations began after she'd picked up his order. It's not like OP chose that particular driver.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84643 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:47 am to
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From a quick google and I could be wrong, Doordash drivers make $25 per hour plus 100% of the tips.


Lol, no
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9752 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:47 am to
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From a quick google and I could be wrong, Doordash drivers make $25 per hour plus 100% of the tips.


This is flat out not accurate.

If you are in a hot market, you'd be doing better than almost all other dashers if you are making $25 an hour WITH tips.

Here is how it works:

You order food, pay, etc. Restaurant received order, offer is generated. It will be base pay for the driver ($2.50) + whatever tip you put in. If you've tipped $3, the order shows as $5.50. If you live 5 miles away, you will be waiting. It might go through 3-4 drivers before some idiot takes it and loses money on the deal. That's what DD wants. If you tip $2 more, someone will take it. personally, I decline anything under $6 and anything less than 1.5x the mileage. If you're 3.8 away and that thing pops up for $6, I'll take it. $5.50 and I'm declining. You have to have rules or you will find yourself sliding farther and farther toward losing your margins.

The issue on both sides is that it's incredibly expensive to get food delivered your to door. Pizza/Chinese has done it for the longest because when drivers aren't busy they are in the restaurant helping out. It's subsidized by the company to incentivize you to order.

Sometimes it's hard to even reconcile cranking the car on a slow day with doordash because you aren't making an hourly wage. The pay you accept is the pay you accept. If more drivers held out for better orders pay would go up. But it's a double edged sword, because if that pay goes up too much and DD doesn't make their nut, it won't be worth it to them.

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