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COVID vaccine could cause worse longterm outcome

Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18168 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:46 pm
Dr. Urso, Twitter

Pubmed Study

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COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.




These vaccines have not been studied and too much is unknown at this point. Anyone rushing to get this is simply being unwise.


Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7051 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:47 pm to
It blows my mind that we aren't focusing primarily on vaccinating the old and only the old. You know....the ones dying.
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 8:49 pm
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11224 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:48 pm to
You got a link to a study showing they make things worse?
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18168 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:49 pm to
How the frick could you draw that conclusion from my post? It blows my mind that anyone wants this vaccine. This vaccine will probably kill more elderly than the flu vaccine does.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18168 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

You got a link to a study showing they make things worse?


Yeah, it's linked in the original post.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95513 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:51 pm to
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How the frick could you draw that conclusion from my post? It blows my mind that anyone wants this vaccine. This vaccine will probably kill more elderly than the flu vaccine does.


Wow
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
957 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:51 pm to
1. this is not a study, not even data. its a supposition.

2. this opinion brief regarding the informed consent for participating in these clinical trials was published before the data from said clinical trials was released, demonstrating that there was indeed no risk of ADE
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

You got a link to a study showing they make things worse?


quote:

2020 Oct 28


I'm guessing no.

Let's take a look at the twitter account:
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MD that patented (NGF for corneal wounds,Oxervate) an FDA approved RX. Mask wearers not allowed on my thread
@Richardursomd on Parler #HCQWORKS, #PATRIOTDOCFlag of United States

Yeah, I'll wait to hear it from someone a little more balanced.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20553 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:52 pm to
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This vaccine will probably kill more elderly than the flu vaccine does.




Goddamn, you are stupid.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58162 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:52 pm to
Cool take
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18292 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

It blows my mind that anyone wants this vaccine. This vaccine will probably kill more elderly than the flu vaccine does.


Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99091 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:53 pm to
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These vaccines have not been studied


mRNA vaccines have been studied for at least the last decade or better due to clinical trials for cancer vaccines. Moderna in particular is one of the companies who have been forming the basis for those vaccines.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52822 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:54 pm to
Doc Urso seems 1000% legit. Thanks for the link.
Posted by BornCritic
Member since Nov 2020
696 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:55 pm to
The only reason there is widespread support for this vaccine is that our governments are essentially holding us hostage over this virus.

I don't want any vaccine for any virus that my immune system can handle on its own.
But I will probably take this one just to be able to function in society.

This is all fricked up worse than I could have even imagined a year ago, and over a virus that 99% survive. It's mind-blowing.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95513 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:55 pm to
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Landmass

Whats funny is I bet you froth at the moth in a rabid rage at doctors on tv giving crazy theories about how covid is a giant killer and we need to stay home

Then yeh lost this whack bullshite
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1850 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:55 pm to
We have a media lieing to all the dumb people in America, they believe it

I live in Shelby county TN, they have good stats..12% of cases over 65yrs old...26% of deaths over 85, 24% between 75-84, 26% 65-74...so 75% over 65....under 45 is 40 deaths...we have had 330 murders in 2020... averaging just short of 200 murders per year 2017-2019
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72976 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:56 pm to
You would have to be a fricking idiot to voluntarily receive this vaccine
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72032 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:56 pm to
Was Dr Octopus not available
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52822 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

We have a media lieing to all the dumb people in America
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113975 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

How the frick could you draw that conclusion from my post? It blows my mind that anyone wants this vaccine. This vaccine will probably kill more elderly than the flu vaccine does.



It blows my mind how people will find something online that supports their views and then will share it as if its concrete information.
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