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re: Couple die in desert hike with nine year old son
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:15 am to Artie Rome
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:15 am to Artie Rome
You damn well know that there are lawyers looking to see if they can make a case against somebody, ANY DAMNED BODY WITH DEEP POCKETS, to get a payoff. I bet there are lawyers right now trying to put their card in the hand of the young boy who survived his parents.
Lawyers think, "Someone HAS to be at fault, and even if they aren't, I will make them pay at least SOMETHING to avoid the costly legal battle."
That's how lawyers think, and you can't deny it.
What do companies (any entity) do to TRY to protect themselves? They issues excessive warnings about everything and anything, and get signed releases whenever possible.
The result? We are OVER warned! It just becomes useless background noise, and the warnings, some actually serious warnings, go unheeded.
Lawyers think, "Someone HAS to be at fault, and even if they aren't, I will make them pay at least SOMETHING to avoid the costly legal battle."
That's how lawyers think, and you can't deny it.
What do companies (any entity) do to TRY to protect themselves? They issues excessive warnings about everything and anything, and get signed releases whenever possible.
The result? We are OVER warned! It just becomes useless background noise, and the warnings, some actually serious warnings, go unheeded.
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:17 am to LSUTANGERINE
They should have surrendered to the trail
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:22 am to heypaul
quote:
Suicide
is painless
it brings so many changes
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:23 am to tigerpimpbot
I think that's exactly what they did.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:24 am to Jimbeaux
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People have come to expect that they will be protected by the big soft hand of government and would never be allowed into a dangerous situation that is "sponsored" by a governmental agency.
This. In the years BC (before children) we went kayaking on the Chattahoochee River 3-4 times up near Atlanta. 3 times, we had to rescue 3 different individuals or pairs of folks that were unprepared for how safety-conscious they should have been. The water gets down to about 50 degrees with a strong current. That's f-ing cold when you capsize your kayak or lose your tube mid-river, and you figured you didn't need to wear the life vest because you can swim.
A father-son pair, a deaf girl, and a gay couple who probably decided on a lark to go kayaking-- all three were approaching hypothermia, possibly going into shock, and were just unprepared when we got to them. Deaths out there are rare, but happen. Hopefully nothing would've happened to those people if we hadn't intervened, but I'd hate to think if we hadn't.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:31 am to Jim Rockford
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How does anybody get in that kind of trouble walking less than five miles?
Heats a killer. My rental broke down about 90 miles outside of Dallas on Friday and it took three hours for roadside assistance to get there. I had a little to drink but was physically drained by the time they arrived.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:32 am to BulldogXero
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I've been to Disney World in July. Near 100 degree temperatures. People can die.
I'll bet, 350+ pounders eating turkey legs in the sun when it's 100 degrees. Sounds like a recipe for heat stroke to me.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:41 am to LSUTANGERINE
How stupid does this sound? Horrible thing to happen, but this wreaks of ignorance by the parents. Holy shite man. Totally unacceptable.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:43 am to Jebeco
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:49 am to Jimbeaux
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You damn well know that there are lawyers looking to see if they can make a case against somebody, ANY DAMNED BODY WITH DEEP POCKETS, to get a payoff.
You know that lawyers don't just file lawsuits right? They need a client, that comes to them, that wants relief.
quote:
We are OVER warned! It just becomes useless background noise, and the warnings, some actually serious warnings, go unheeded.
So when you see a "Caution, Wet Floors" sign and ignore it, it's a lawyers fault? It's funny because you are arguing that people should take personal responsibility, but then saying it's someone else's fault when the don't.
Are you a lawyer?
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:52 am to Walt OReilly
The mother doesn't feel well and turns back at 300ft/yds( I don't remember which). The father makes the bad decision not to go back to assist his sick bride--and walked an additional 2000ft/yds. I'm not leaving my wife to walk back alone while sick. She made 300-he made 2000. He should have assisted her.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:54 am to Meauxjeaux
What else were they supposed to do?
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:55 am to LSUTANGERINE
We attempted to hike that in mid july 2009 with no water.
Got .25 miles from the car, tried to speak and found I couldn't.
We walked back to the car and drank water in the AC. It was our first desert trip.
I now carry at least a dozen bottles of drinking water in any vehicle now. Lesson learned.
Not surprising the kid lived if he did.
Kids are tough as shite.
Got .25 miles from the car, tried to speak and found I couldn't.
We walked back to the car and drank water in the AC. It was our first desert trip.
I now carry at least a dozen bottles of drinking water in any vehicle now. Lesson learned.
Not surprising the kid lived if he did.
Kids are tough as shite.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:58 am to LSUTANGERINE
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An autopsy on the parents isn't back yet, House said, but the medical examiner says their deaths appear heat-related.
ya think?
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:00 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I read about these dumbasses last week. Going for a hike in the desert during the summer in the afternoon with only two 20oz bottles of water isn't very smart.
I hate that the son experienced this, but his parents were negligent for not being properly prepared. When I go for day hikes in the Ozarks in the Fall I always carry 2L of water for myself "just in case."
I hate that the son experienced this, but his parents were negligent for not being properly prepared. When I go for day hikes in the Ozarks in the Fall I always carry 2L of water for myself "just in case."
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:15 pm to Tear It Up
The national parks are unbelievably crowded with people that just have no clue. The last fairly big hike I did was in Bryce Canyon last November. 9 miles with tons of elevation change. Started the day in jeans and a sweatshirt and ended it in shorts. My father and I packed in 6 liters of water.
The number of people I came across that morning with no water and the wrong clothes blew me away.
The number of people I came across that morning with no water and the wrong clothes blew me away.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:21 pm to windmill
quote:
The mother doesn't feel well and turns back at 300ft/yds( I don't remember which). The father makes the bad decision not to go back to assist his sick bride--and walked an additional 2000ft/yds. I'm not leaving my wife to walk back alone while sick. She made 300-he made 2000. He should have assisted her.
No, they made it 1.5 miles in.
When the mom turned back THEN she only made it 300ft before collapsing.
That's a football field.
I cannot imagine as a husband, letting your wife turn back alone.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:23 pm to RATeamWannabe
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What else were they supposed to do?
Well, apparently they did more than the park rangers.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:24 pm to Jim Rockford
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How does anybody get in that kind of trouble walking less than five miles?
If the markers are close enough to each other it wouldn't surprise me if they would take breaks at them and then when they got up to start again perhaps they got turned around and walked back where they came form. Hard to imagine though considering they would probably have noticed their footprints in the sand.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:52 pm to BulldogXero
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Natural selection at work
Their kid survived...so nope!
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