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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:57 pm to
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Louisiana looks a lot more like Italy or Iran on that graph. Prayers

Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10336 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:59 pm to
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got a link?


Yes, I do.

This is in response to my contention that China was faking their virus-related cases and deaths from January to mid-February:

LINK

Along with this, someone on twitter was using an algorithm to predict the new Chinese numbers each day before they were reported. It was actually somewhat humorous, even though it was tragic at the same time.

In case you don't click on the link:

quote:

In terms of the virus data, the number of cumulative deaths reported is described by a simple mathematical formula to a very high accuracy, according to a quantitative-finance specialist who ran a regression of the data for Barron’s. A near-perfect 99.99% of variance is explained by the equation, this person said. Put in an investing context, that variance, or so-called r-squared value, would mean that an investor could predict tomorrow’s stock price with almost perfect accuracy. In this case, the high r-squared means there is essentially zero unexpected variability in reported cases day after day.

Barron’s re-created the regression analysis of total deaths caused by the virus, which first emerged in the central Chinese city of Wuhan at the end of last year, and found similarly high variance. We ran it by Melody Goodman, associate professor of biostatistics at New York University’s School of Global Public Health. “I have never in my years seen an r-squared of 0.99,” Goodman says. “As a statistician, it makes me question the data.”


Of course, China completely changed the criteria for cases and the reporting of deaths later in the month, which completely muddied up any semblance of statistical consistency.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4123 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:59 pm to
If you did the states, especially based on pop., then yeah it does. Should've mentioned spain and china also
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29691 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:00 pm to
We’re at 104 US deaths. I’m going to guess the mortality rate is around 0.2% which would mean we are above 50,000 cases nationally.
Posted by Theboot32
Mandeville/Poplarville
Member since Jan 2016
2454 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:02 pm to
This seems crazy to me, my buddy is an ER nurse at University Medical in NOLA, said touro is out of ventilators and sending all patients to them now.

He knows he has been exposed but is still working, nothing they can do
Posted by slacker00
Member since Mar 2011
593 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:07 pm to
Your guesses and numbers would have to assume no one else in that 50000 dies......
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:09 pm to
Touro is not a big hospital
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:12 pm to
Just want to say this thread has been pretty dang good and informative the past day or so with minimal trolling. Great info across the board, but especially from the docs and nurses!
Posted by Sam4LSU
Member since Aug 2014
140 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:15 pm to
We aren’t. We are barely keeping our heads above water for now
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:15 pm to
How many cases does Russia have? They border with China. I didn't know until recently that China makes our meds.

Could this be payback for the embargo?

I'll remove my tinfoil hat but it doesn't add up.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Theboot32
Mandeville/Poplarville
Member since Jan 2016
2454 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:17 pm to
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Touro is not a big hospital


Makes sense then I guess, how many ventilators would they have available?
Posted by Sam4LSU
Member since Aug 2014
140 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:19 pm to
Our admin docs have been in touch with UMC. We heard it was a jungle at UMC. It will likely become just as crazy around my area in the next week. I truly believe I have been seeing either mild cases or early disease. Of course, I have no proof of that. If I am correct and some of these patients with early disease & comorbids start to worsen, which I assume some will, we will be in the same boat as UMC
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105316 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:19 pm to
Your blood type matters

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OBJECTIVE To investigate the relationship between the ABO blood group and the COVID-19 susceptibility. DESIGN The study was conducted by comparing the blood group distribution in 2,173 patients with COVID-19 confirmed by SARS-CoV-2 test from three hospitals in Wuhan and Shenzhen, China with that in normal people from the corresponding regions. Data were analyzed using one-way ANOVA and 2-tailed ?2 and a meta-analysis was performed by random effects models. SETTING Three tertiary hospitals in Wuhan and Shenzhen, China. PARTICIPANTS A total of 1,775 patients with COVID-19, including 206 dead cases, from Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital, Wuhan, China were recruited. Another 113 and 285 patients with COVID-19 were respectively recruited from Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University, Wuhan and Shenzhen Third People's Hospital, Shenzhen, China. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES Detection of ABO blood groups, infection occurrence of SARS-CoV-2, and patient death RESULTS The ABO group in 3694 normal people in Wuhan showed a distribution of 32.16%, 24.90%, 9.10% and 33.84% for A, B, AB and O, respectively, versus the distribution of 37.75%, 26.42%, 10.03% and 25.80% for A, B, AB and O, respectively, in 1775 COVID-19 patients from Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital. The proportion of blood group A and O in COVID-19 patients were significantly higher and lower, respectively, than that in normal people (both P < 0.001). Similar ABO distribution pattern was observed in 398 patients from another two hospitals in Wuhan and Shenzhen. Meta-analyses on the pooled data showed that blood group A had a significantly higher risk for COVID-19 (odds ratio-OR, 1.20; 95% confidence interval-CI 1.02~1.43, P = 0.02) compared with non-A blood groups, whereas blood group O had a significantly lower risk for the infectious disease (OR, 0.67; 95% CI 0.60~0.75, P < 0.001) compared with non-O blood groups.In addition, the influence of age and gender on the ABO blood group distribution in patients with COVID-19 from two Wuhan hospitals (1,888 patients) were analyzed and found that age and gender do not have much effect on the distribution. CONCLUSION People with blood group A have a significantly higher risk for acquiring COVID-19 compared with non-A blood groups, whereas blood group O has a significantly lower risk for the infection compared with non-O blood groups.


LINK
Posted by Theboot32
Mandeville/Poplarville
Member since Jan 2016
2454 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:22 pm to
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Your blood type matters


So O+ is good??
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:22 pm to
LINK

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Two fundamental strategies are possible: (a) mitigation, which focuses on slowing but not necessarily stopping epidemic spread –reducing peak healthcare demand while protecting those most at risk of severe disease from infection, and (b) suppression, which aims to reverse epidemic growth, reducing case numbers to low levels and maintaining that situation indefinitely.Each policy has major challenges. We find that that optimal mitigation policies (combining home isolation of suspect cases, home quarantine of those living in the same household as suspect cases, and social distancing of the elderly and others at most risk of severe disease) might reduce peak healthcare demand by 2/3 and deaths by half. However, the resulting mitigated epidemic would still likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths and health systems (most notably intensive care units) being overwhelmed many times over. For countries able to achieve it, this leaves suppression as the preferred policy option.

We show that in the UK and US context, suppression will minimally require a combination of social distancing of the entire population, home isolation of cases and household quarantine of their family members. This may need to be supplemented by school and university closures, though it should be recognized that such closures may have negative impacts on health systems due to increased absenteeism. The major challenge of suppression is that this type of intensive intervention package –or something equivalently effective at reducing transmission –will need to be maintained until a vaccine becomes available (potentially 18 months or more) –given that we predict that transmission will quickly rebound if interventions are relaxed.We show that intermittent social distancing –triggered by trends in disease surveillance –may allow interventions to be relaxed temporarily in relative short time windows, but measures will need to be reintroduced if or when case numbers rebound.Last, while experience in China and now South Korea show that suppression is possible in the short term, it remains to be seen whether it is possible long-term, and whether the social and economic costs of the interventions adopted thus far can be r and economic costs of the interventions adopted thus far can be r


Interesting paper from Imperial College London. Seems that there are two schools of thought on dealing with this: either try and mitigate the initial outbreak which could lead to more infections and deaths or go the route of suppressing this outbreak which would mean long term lock downs. I do agree that we will be dealing with this until a vaccine is developed and until that happens we will see another outbreak develop once restrictions are lifted. I'm glad I'm not having to be in charge of directing the response to this. Either way you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179077 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:22 pm to
I don’t knows my blood type
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105316 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:23 pm to
Team O+ checking in
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66922 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:24 pm to
If UK cancels ascot for the queens health it will be warranted

God save the Queen!
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10336 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:29 pm to
It's an interesting hypothesis that blood type matters, but that article hasn't been peer reviewed yet.

Given what we know about the chaotic circumstances in Wuhan, I'd like to see a much broader sample.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:29 pm to
A+ here. Frick me, huh? Can't work from home, but I don't interact with many people throughout the day. Hopefully going to work, coming home, working out at home, and going to bed will be enough social distancing to keep this shite off of me.
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