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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:26 am to
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:26 am to
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Also one was from Independence yesterday but was confirmed at Oschner so that one was attributed to New Orleans


My mother told me last night that a woman that came into their office on Friday with all of the symptoms tested positive yesterday. A little worried, as my mom talked to this lady, and wheeled her out of the office...


ETA: Mom works at Family Doctors behind Oakwood, not sure where the patient was tested.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 8:28 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:30 am to
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Is trolling this thread your sexual fetish or something?


He needs to find a new hobby before while school is out.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22972 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:35 am to
Has Italy made the turn? Daily new cases and daily deaths were down yesterday.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:41 am to
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There were a lot of positive vibes after that Goldman talk?

Interesting. After predicting a 2% mortality rate and 5% critical rate.

I think most logical people knew what was coming.


These were the reasons people were optimistic about the economy...
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Peak-virus is expected over the next eight weeks, declining thereafter.

The virus appears to be concentrated in a band between 30-50 degrees north latitude, meaning that like the common cold and flu, it prefers cold weather. The coming summer in the northern hemisphere should help. This is to say that the virus is likely seasonal.



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Mortality rate on average of up to 2%, heavily weight towards the elderly and immunocompromised; meaning up to 3m people (150m*.02). In the US about 3m/yr die mostly due to old age and disease, those two being highly correlated (as a percent very few from accidents). There will be significant overlap, so this does not mean 3m new deaths from the virus, it means elderly people dying sooner due to respiratory issues.


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Stock markets should fully recover in the 2nd half of the year.


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There is NO systemic risk. No one is even talking about that. Governments are intervening in the markets to stabilize them, and the private banking sector is very well capitalized. It feels more like 9/11 than it does like 2008.



From a healthcare POV, it isn't very optimistic, but from an economic one, it is. All of my buddies in PE and wealth management are about to lean in heavily on the market today. There has been some really successful antiviral treatments announced (one meant for Ebola) and if those continue to work, the panic will massively subside.

That's not even mentioning the vaccine already in human trials.


This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53474 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:41 am to
Well I would hope so. They have been on complete lockdown for over a week now.

If they were increasing we’ve major problems.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:42 am to
Anyone know if chloroquine was shown to be effective at preventing infection? I know it’s been looked at and seems to have a positive influence in treatment, but I’ve seen a report saying it’s been shown effective as a prophylactic. Any truth to that?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:42 am to
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Has Italy made the turn? Daily new cases and daily deaths were down yesterday.



This was predicted to be the turning point after their quarantine because of the 3-5 day incubation period. The people who have should all have symptoms by now and get tested, so the new cases should fall off a cliff.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:43 am to
Remdesivir is the antiviral that is making headlines right now.

Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9924 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:44 am to
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Summary from a friend of the massive Goldman call yesterday. It’s making waves right now in a positive way:



So on a cruise ship were everyone was locked together and everyone was tested only 20% got the virus. And only 20% of them showed symptoms. But 1/2 of the USA is going to contract it?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:46 am to
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So on a cruise ship were everyone was locked together and everyone was tested only 20% got the virus. And only 20% of them showed symptoms. But 1/2 of the USA is going to contract it?



Not my stats my guy...I think it is an aggressive model, but it is not out of the realm of possibility.

The cruise ship folks were quarantined to their rooms pretty quickly, weren't they?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21548 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:46 am to
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Jan 2020- present: Deaths worldwide from the FLU= 140,000


Vaccine used worldwide to try and prevent deaths.

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Dec 2019-present: Deaths worldwide from the Coronavirus= 7,000


Prior to Dec, no one worldwide ever died of COVID19.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61452 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:49 am to
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think most logical people knew what was coming.
im not sure 238 people can make a huge difference though
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22972 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:51 am to
So Italy, with an average age of their population being 48, representing a seemingly worse case scenario, is going to see approximately 3,500 deaths out of 60M people, or 0.0058% of their population.

That would translate to 19,000 deaths in the US, and that would be an absolute worst case scenario.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:54 am to
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So Italy, with an average age of their population being 48, representing a seemingly worse case scenario, is going to see approximately 3,500 deaths out of 60M people, or 0.0058% of their population.

That would translate to 19,000 deaths in the US, and that would be an absolute worst case scenario.


Italy went on crazy draconian lockdown as well.

And the entire country wasn't impacted equally. There are a lot of variables here.

Also, while deaths are terrible, the critical care rate is a real issue as well. Heart attacks, strokes, trauma from accidents, etc. don't stop because of coronavirus, so not having capacity in ICUs and ERs could lead to other deaths.

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:56 am to
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Anyone know if chloroquine was shown to be effective at preventing infection? I know it’s been looked at and seems to have a positive influence in treatment, but I’ve seen a report saying it’s been shown effective as a prophylactic. Any truth to that?


Threads on the poli board indicate YES. Some were "cured" in less than a week. It's reported there that's what Tom Hanks & his wife received.
Posted by Shane4689
Wrong Way on a No Way Road
Member since Dec 2010
3150 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:56 am to
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is going to see approximately 3,500 deaths


Based on what? They are at 2,158 now.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:58 am to
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, is going to see approximately 3,500 deaths out of 60M people, or 0.0058% of their population.



please stop lying
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22972 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:59 am to
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There are a lot of variables here.


There are, but many of those variables suggest that the situation in Italy should be worse than in the US.

Italy's average age of their population is 48 with 23% of their population over the age of 65.

The average age of the US population is 38 with only 15% being over the age of 65.

The population density in Italy is also much higher at 515 people per square mile. The population density in the contiguous US is only 105 people per square mile.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22972 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:00 am to
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Based on what? They are at 2,158 now.


An approximation assuming that they are on the tail end of this at this point.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43173 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:02 am to
Has Italy fallen off the map yet?


Serious question-I wonder what far reaching impacts this will have on foreign travel in the coming years. And maybe all of these Instagram “influencers” will have to find real jobs now. There is a silver lining in this after all I guess...
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