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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:08 pm to HerbEaverstinks
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:08 pm to HerbEaverstinks
quote:Which is one of the reasons I believe they need to sack all of the heads at the CDC.
I understand, but there needs to be coordination. They need to all work together. Work swiftly and be on top of the entire situation.
They are fricking up royally.
This is supposed to be their bread and butter.
They should be seeking those numbers weekly.
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:08 pm to disco tiger
quote:
Austin just basically banned all events over 2500 people until May 1
This is amazing.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:10 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Which is one of the reasons I believe they need to sack all of the heads at the CDC.
They are fricking up royally.
This is supposed to be their bread and butter.
They should be seeking those numbers weekly.
Scruffy is right.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:10 pm to HerbEaverstinks
quote:That goddamn decoder ring just keeps screwing us
Should have just said: Drink more Ovaltine.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:12 pm to Scruffy
quote:What we need is a centralized place for disease control management. Where is FDR when you need him.
Which is one of the reasons I believe they need to sack all of the heads at the CDC.
They are fricking up royally.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:12 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Which is one of the reasons I believe they need to sack all of the heads at the CDC.
They are fricking up royally.
This is supposed to be their bread and butter.
They should be seeking those numbers weekly.
I agree with you 100% the problem is who is going to replace them? Nobody in the private sector will take positions like these and if they do it might be for 2 yrs max. Our government is extremely bloated and incompetent.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:12 pm to NOSHAU
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What do you want to hear that could possibly be any different from what they told you late last week?
How many tests given out? How many pending? Is the draconian criteria for testing still the same? How many have recovered? How many are hospitalized now?
Theres a lot of really basic questions and not a lot of answers. CDC has gotten in their own way for much of this saga, starting with the decision to turn down WHO tests and then frick up their own.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:16 pm to tigerfoot
quote:What we need is a reduction of the CDC.
What we need is a centralized place for disease control management.
They need to be streamlined.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:18 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:
Where is the info that we actually want right now
Believe it or not hand washing is the number 1 preventative measure for spreading bacteria or virus or anything else.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:22 pm to Scruffy
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What we need is a reduction of the CDC.
Sarcasm?
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:22 pm to WylieTiger
Vandy is shutting down classes the rest of the week and then going online for at least a couple weeks. Wonder if I'll be working from home soon.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:27 pm to chimesstreet
quote:Not at all.
Sarcasm?
By reduction, I mean streamlining it.
Remove bullshite ancillary sections.
Streamline the focus of the CDC. Make it about “disease control”.
We can keep the same staff numbers, but the CDC has clearly lost focus on what it’s purpose is.
The fact that they dropped the ball so badly proves that as fact.
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:39 pm to jennBN
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jennBN
For your fomite question. It’s a pre-print article from Germany but pretty much everything right now is pre-print. They do say they detected a certain type of RNA found with SARS that indicates patients could shed virus in stool, but they weren’t able to grow any virus from those samples.
quote:
To understand infectivity, live virus isolation was attempted on multiple occasions from clinical samples (Figure 1 D). Whereas virus was readily isolated during the first week of symptoms from a significant fraction of samples (16.66% in swabs, 83.33% in sputum samples), no isolates were obtained from samples taken after day 8 in spite of ongoing high viral loads. Virus isolation from stool samples was never successful, irrespective of viral RNA concentration, based on a total of 13 samples taken between days six to twelve from four patients. Virus isolation success also depended on viral load: samples containing <106copies/mL (or copies per sample) never yielded an isolate. For swab and sputum, interpolation based on a probit model was done to obtain laboratory-based infectivity criteria for discharge of patients.
Our initial results suggest that measures to contain viral spread should aim at droplet-, rather than fomite-based transmission (
LINK
It’s a really interesting article. It explains how COVID is different from SARS because of a furin cleavage site that allows it to infect cells with very low ACE2 expression, and because of this there is high replication in the throat and this explains the increased infectivity over SARS.
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:40 pm to mjax57
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When Do you remember this type of actual reaction around the globe? Actual school districts shutting down, travel bans, quarantines, etc.
Obviously, this is something that has experts and governments concerned.
This is what I don't understand. I always ignored media hype but no one can tell me why everyone is cancelling events and closing schools and all that. I don't recall this ever happening before (a localized flu closing a school-yes. But festivals and sporting events globally-no)
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:41 pm to mjax57
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this is something that has experts and governments concerned.
Follow the money
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:44 pm to madamsquirrel
Because entities want to look proactive rather than inactive because social media backlash could happen if someone was infected while at the event/location.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:44 pm to Scruffy
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Remove bullshite ancillary sections.
I had experience with one of those bullshite ancillary sections. Found them to be very helpful and competent.
Responded quickly. I'd like to think they saved lives.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:46 pm to chimesstreet
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This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:50 pm to ell_13
So you think the approach in Italy should be just let everybody go everywhere, business as usual?
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:51 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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CDC leadership needs to be sacked at some point, even if it is after this is over.
This has been the case for decades. Instead, a lot of good people have left over the years, and the organization has become too politicized.
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