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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
There is somewhere in between what you are saying and what we did that is the right answer.
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Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:01 pm to tigerskin
quote:What about when it collapses a health care system ? That was always going to the issue with this virus. I think ~15% of the cases out of Wuhan require critical care. Italy is literally putting ICU treatment in hospital hallways right now and they haven’t even peaked yet.
Are you this dense? Try reading how sick you have to be in Louisiana to even get a test. We are not testing for all of the mild cases out there. The mortality rate is much less than 5 percent
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:01 pm to Lsut81
Exactly and you were saying it was odd from beginning. You experienced it first hand.
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:03 pm to tgr4ever
Well, I wish everyone with even mild symptoms could get tested and try and isolate it as much as possible but I don’t make those decisions.
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:04 pm to SCTmo
South Korea is testing like crazy and the numbers are way worse than flu. That is a good place to see how it’ll land.
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:05 pm to lsu13lsu
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South Korea is testing like crazy and the numbers are way worse than flu. That is a good place to see how it’ll land.
But the current CFR rate in SK is .68% way lower than estimated
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:06 pm to lsu13lsu
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Exactly and you were saying it was odd from beginning. You experienced it first hand.
Fly into HK or SG anytime of the year, not just bc of this, and they are temperature testing as you walk to customs.
The fact that the US wasn’t doing so over a week after the blowup of this in Asia was incompetence.
Wouldn’t have stopped, but slowed so things could be mitigated. Maybe even the CDC could have had time to get the tests right the first time
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:08 pm to tigerskin
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“With 6,767 confirmed cases as of late Friday, South Korea has more coronavirus patients than any country besides China. That high number may in part be a function of the country’s sweeping testing program that involved tens of thousands of people. When balanced against the country’s 44 deaths, the case-fatality ratio is less than 0.7%.”
This is certainly reassuring to me (versus the 5% figure from Italy), but it's also very SK specific right? They've been far more proactive than Italy or Iran (or us for that matter) in testing and quarntine. They're trying to get ahead of it.
I think the government is kind of damned if they do, damned if they don't. You can test, quarntine, and shut off borders but you have to deal with the panic it causes which in turn causes a great initial strain on the healthcare system as many rush in to get tested at the slightest cough. Shelves are depleted with supplies, shite just goes bad quickly and you may cause more infections because all these people are together in a hospital in close quarters. Doesn't even take into account the legal bullshite that many groups would start suing over when government control affects their business or individual rights.
The flip side is you wait and wait and delay and make it seem like less of a problem than it probably is. We all know that the number of people who have coronavirus in the US is likely vastly under-reported at the moment (just from seeing how little testing has occurred). The pro is, in theory, you allow your healthcare system to get things more ready for when shite is about to go down; but the spread will only grow as well as areas remain untreated. You hope the density of our population slows things as well as increasingly warm weather, herd immunity, all that jazz. But seems a little bit leaving it up to chance.
I don't know what to think is the best approach (though SK seems to be providing an example that theirs is). But I do think it's far more difficult to make those calls (and that's assuming that all arms of the government are actually working together on this issue instead of interested in their own self interests) than we'd like it to seem.
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:08 pm to musick
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But the current CFR rate in SK is .68% way lower than estimated
What if I told you the CFR for influenza was .14%, a fifth of covid?
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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For those saying "this could have been stopped"
what EXACTLY DID YOU WANT state and federal govt to do to stop it?
Taking the WHO tests instead of insisting on their own- and then botching them would have been a good start.
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:12 pm to NYNolaguy1
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What if I told you the CFR for influenza was .14%, a fifth of covid?
Well, we have some antibodies from previous exposure to flu and flu shots can help limit severity if you still get the flu.
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:15 pm to tigerskin
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Well, we have some antibodies from previous exposure to flu and flu shots can help limit severity if you still get the flu.
Yes... my point being that even if the SK numbers are correct (and I tend to think they are) you are looking at a virus that kills 5x as many people as influenza does per person.
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:15 pm to NYNolaguy1
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a fifth
I'll drink to that.
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:17 pm to NYNolaguy1
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taking the WHO tests instead of insisting on their own- and then botching them would have been a good start
No no. There is nothing we could do!!
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:19 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Yes... my point being that even if the SK numbers are correct (and I tend to think they are) you are looking at a virus that kills 5x as many people as influenza does per person.
I think 5x looks a hell of a lot better than 50x to most folks so they'll take it right now.
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:19 pm to NYNolaguy1
Yeah. As I said, I don’t want flu nor Coronavirus. Now that our testing capability has gone up so much recently, I don’t understand why we aren’t allowed to test mild cases to get a good handle on it.
Yes it is probably in every state right now, but I think we could still do some good with aggressive testing.
Yes it is probably in every state right now, but I think we could still do some good with aggressive testing.
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:26 pm to SCTmo
Note also that the flu death rate is very low, so 5 times that is still equal to very low
5 x (low number)= low number
5 x (low number)= low number
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:27 pm to SCTmo
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Sitting at about 5% right now. But it's just the flu.
quote:It's just a numbers game. I think it MAY have been all over the Seattle area and people have been unknowingly spreading it. My girlfriend and I had the flu weeks ago and I thought she was silly when she claimed to have it. It was brutal on her but got me mainly in the chest with shortness of breath. Looking back now and thinking it's possible.
isn't it disingenuous to ignore the huge swath of likely infected people who have yet to be identified because the disease has had a much less serious direct effect on them?
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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5 x (low number)= low number
The flu killed ~35,000 people last year. I wouldn't call that a small number.
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:36 pm to tigerskin
I think our government has an interest in trying to minimize given that our healthcare system couldn’t in its wildest dreams treat everyone. Might as well have people not panic until the shite hits the fan.
That’s before you factor in all the election year garbage that gives our leaders bad incentives
That’s before you factor in all the election year garbage that gives our leaders bad incentives
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