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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:13 am to MadDogs
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:13 am to MadDogs
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Can clarify if this is talking about the virus remaining infectious for that amount of time or is just able to be identified?
It is a meta analysis, so I’d have to dig down in the references of each paper to determine how the thresholds were tested and quantified.
It does quantify however that a huge variable on infectivity is behavioral.
Holding a doorknob for 5 seconds will allow for influenza transfer of more than 30% of present virons.
3 seconds? Around 1.5%
Regardless the biggest takeaway for me was the high variability between related strains even within similar conditions, implying that it’s a bad idea to rely on generalizations to make definitive statements on surface survivability
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:17 am
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:15 am to WaWaWeeWa
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It would be nice to get updated DP data.
I found a link to a twitter profile of a Taro Kono:
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Taro Kono (?? ??, Kono Taro, born 10 January 1963) is a Japanese politician belonging to the Liberal Democratic Party. He is a member of the House of Representatives, and has served as Minister for Defense since a Cabinet re-shuffle by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on 11 September 2019.[1] Kono previously served as Minister of Foreign Affairs under the same Prime Minister until he was appointed to his current ministerial role.
Tweet in question (in Japanese)
quote:
Taro Kono
@konotarogomame
Cruise ship-related (March 5) Positive 696 (revised by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare) Of which, positive asymptomatic 410 returned to Japan? 230 discharged, 35 ventilated or ICU died, 7
4:06 PM · Mar 5, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
696 positive
410 asymptomatic
230 discharged (recovered?)
35 crticial
7 deaths
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:17 am to Fun Bunch
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I'm going to be in France in a couple of weeks
I don't know if this is going to make you feel better or worse but in a few weeks this thing is going to be far more widespread here too.
Not saying people are going to be dropping dead in the streets, but I dont know if it's going to be any better here than there.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:19 am to NYNolaguy1
I’d be worried in getting stuck at customs coming back because of being symptomatic more than anything.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:19 am to NYNolaguy1
My hope is that in 5 weeks this thing will have leveled off and cases will be on the decline.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:19 am to Volvagia
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I’d be worried in getting stuck at customs coming back because of being symptomatic more than anything.
I'm worried about being quarantined or not being able to get back due to travel restrictions, not actually getting it, which the odds are extremely small.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:29 am to Fun Bunch
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My hope is that in 5 weeks this thing will have leveled off and cases will be on the decline.
Um.
It’s about to blow the frick up. US and Europe have had community level transmission for weeks now.
When the testing situation gets unfricked the case numbers will shoot up.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:30 am to Fun Bunch
University of Washington officially going to remote learning after a campus staff member tested positive. Won’t be the last university to do so
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:33 am to Volvagia
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Um.
It’s about to blow the frick up. US and Europe have had community level transmission for weeks now.
We'll see.
You're a smart guy that knows more than me, but I don't buy into panic. I think we should take extreme precaution while at the same time I'll just wait and see what the world looks like in a few weeks.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:33 am to tylerdurden24
Our infection control folks are saying average surface life is 9 hours.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:36 am to Fun Bunch
It's not panicking to say it's about to get big here. It's simply facing reality.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:39 am to Burhead
This is what we have been preaching for weeks. The clusters are going to create surge in a particular area. You have to find that area and reinforce and contain it.
Italy is approaching a Wuhan type scenario. China took a drastic next step and contained the surge. It will be interesting to see how a more democratic country responds.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:41 am to WaWaWeeWa
Corona virus sounds fun. “Grandkids, your pops whipped that global pandemic in the arse!”
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:41 am to Dr RC
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It's not panicking to say it's about to get big here. It's simply facing reality.
So you say.
There's no evidence that I have seen to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is going to get to pandemic levels here.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:43 am to Fun Bunch
I’d bank on it simply because people here simply refuse to be inconvenienced. They’re going to get sick and spread it because they refuse to cancel travel plans out of precaution and when they become symptomatic, they refuse to stay in quarantine because it’s uncomfortable. Culturally we are not ready for the personal responsibility necessary to keep this contained and the government isn’t going to do what China did to get it under control
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:45 am to tylerdurden24
It makes sense, for sure, and I think about and prepare for the worst, and I hope our governments do the same...
But I also am not a healthcare professional so I take a wait and see approach. I've been washing my hands pretty regularly, but other than that we will just see how it looks in a few weeks. What else can you do?
But I also am not a healthcare professional so I take a wait and see approach. I've been washing my hands pretty regularly, but other than that we will just see how it looks in a few weeks. What else can you do?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:47 am to tylerdurden24
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They’re going to get sick and spread it because they refuse to cancel travel plans out of precaution and when they become symptomatic, they refuse to stay in quarantine because it’s uncomfortable.
You nailed it. Most of the work out our company can be done remotely and we do work from home some of the time. When I do go in, I am always amazed how many sick people show up even when they don't have to. I was working from home on Tuesday and while on a video meeting, two of the people in the office were sitting there sneezing throughout the meeting. It seemed a little backwards. Made me glad I wasn't there.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:49 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:48 am to bamarep
At what point does the harm of a global recession & resource shortage outweigh the harm of letting this virus run its course through the populations? Prolonged social distancing, work interruption, and travel restrictions could burden supply chains and manufacturing levels to the point where there are significant shortages of resources & food. The risk associated with those events outweighs the risk that COVID presents. Human population levels at the moment can only persist if the system keeps going - we have too many people on the planet for prolonged stalls in production where there wont be profound negative consequences. Stalling for a couple of months to learn more and evaluate is prudent but this can only go on for so long before the downside outweighs the upside.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:51 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:48 am to Fun Bunch
I mean there’s nothing to do but control what you can control and encourage your loved ones to do the same. I’ve cancelled plans for the weekend with people who are in Buckhead because of reported cases and while it’s inconvenient, it’s the responsible thing to do. I’m not worried about my health if I get sick but I have a young kid at home which really worries me.
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