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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:51 am to
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:51 am to
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From WHO twitter:

"Globally, about 3.4% of reported #COVID19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected"- @DrTedros #coronavirus


The WHO has also said that truly asymptomatic cases are around 1% and that most "asymptomatic" cases eventually transition to illness.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:55 am to
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The WHO has also said


The WHO has said a lot of crap thus far. Where is this data?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21549 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:55 am to
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Same argument that China has like 2 flu deaths, but the US has tens of thousands.


That topic has been beat to death in this thread from every side but good luck finding the quality post explaining it rationally (there are a number of them that provide really useful information but they are buried in this thread that doesn't even reference COVID19 in the title ).
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87385 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:56 am to
WHO is too busy telling people how to talk about COVID in a non-offensive way that doesn't assign blame.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:57 am to
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So you’re comparing a reported number vs a total infections number. Solid info there.


There are certainly undiagnosed cases

There are also certainly recently diagnosed cases or critical cases that will die

Why do you only see it one way? I think the mortality rate will come down some but that assuming healthcare systems can keep up. Either way, the amount the mortality rate would have to come down to be “just another flu” is massive.
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
5100 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:58 am to
I got destroyed for saying this the other day. It makes sense, but most will look at the contrary and say it’s misrepresentation of data or an overreaction.

We have immunity from seasonal flu strains over several strains, while there is absolutely zero immunity Built up for this virus. It may not wipe out our species, but this is proving to be an issue especially with the elderly.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21549 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:59 am to
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The WHO has said a lot of crap thus far. Where is this data?


They reference the data in the China report and the data obtained by other countries. I had no opinion of the WHO before this event but they do appear to have some really good doctors/researchers/etc working on this issue. Obviously, they are also having to deal with wildlly different political agendas across the impacted countries.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:10 pm to
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Professional sports events in Spain where large numbers of fans from coronavirus-hit areas are expected will be played behind closed doors, with no spectators, the country’s health minister announced Tuesday.

The move will affect the March 10 Champions League match between Valencia and Atalanta, as well as a March 19 match featuring Getafe and Inter Milan.

Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12695 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:20 pm to
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It may not wipe out our species


I’ll go out on a limb and even say it probably won’t
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:35 pm to
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I think the mortality rate will come down some but that assuming healthcare systems can keep up. Either way, the amount the mortality rate would have to come down to be “just another flu” is massive.



The mortality rate is going to come way down. Like way, way down. The infected number is far higher than known, because to most it feels like a bad cold or possible flu. You do not get the coronavirus and then suddenly fall over with blood running from your eyes.

This virus is deadly to the elderly and others with weak immune systems. The deaths in these people could easily be triggered by the flu as well.

Now everyone back to fear mongering
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29691 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:36 pm to
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So you’re comparing a reported number vs a total infections number. Solid info there.


Total infections number doesn’t exist.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
Smart post.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25832 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:50 pm to
It is currently accepted South Korea has done the most proactive testing. The mortality rate in SK stands at 0.53%. That is quite a different number than the 3% mortality rate. There is an 85% drop in mortality rates between China and South Korea.

Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29691 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
US reporting 6 deaths and only 60 confirmed cases is nearing absurd.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53481 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:13 pm to
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You do not get the coronavirus and then suddenly fall over with blood running from your eyes.



Such a brave hot take....
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:24 pm to
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I bought some Marriott. Still watching other options. Looking at hotels, airlines, delivery companies.



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Why? Again this isn’t the bottom for these stocks, you will have the opportunity to get them cheaper, so just why?


Downvoted for giving free advice. Stock market trying to give back "gains" from yesterday
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29691 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:24 pm to
7th death from the Washington nursing home reported. This death was actually the first but was just confirmed to be covid19.
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
5100 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:41 pm to
Easy one to go on, when you take out of context what I said after that.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:44 pm to
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It may not wipe out our species,


For fricks sake.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71167 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:45 pm to
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US reporting 6 deaths and only 60 confirmed cases is nearing absurd.


Probably because most Americans who actually have the disease think it's the flu and are just staying home, keeping hydrated, and taking Motrin until they no longer have a fever.

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