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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 8/23/20 at 6:55 am to Glock17
Posted on 8/23/20 at 6:55 am to Glock17
I like Dr. Kanter’s enthusiasm but have some questions. Since masks were mandated the cases rose, why? If you all are similar to us in lower Alabama, we are not staying home. Schools are open, we attended a h.s. Football game Friday and life is normal besides looking silly with a mask. I’m just wondering if it has done its thing; transmitted and weakened through the past couple months to get back to business as usual?
I get we need to stay home in mail in ballots to ensure our dead grandmother votes for Biden but as these numbers are becoming significantly better each day what is the left going to do by November?
I get we need to stay home in mail in ballots to ensure our dead grandmother votes for Biden but as these numbers are becoming significantly better each day what is the left going to do by November?
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Posted on 8/24/20 at 6:16 am to LaneRat
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Can someone explain why the use of cloth masks was not recommended early on?
Because the CDC and W.H.O. say they were not require and shouldn't be worn expect if you were sick or were treating COVID-19 patients. ......................Before they say they should be worn.
Their effectiveness rating for viruses is around zero.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 9:52 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:03 pm to LaneRat
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Can someone explain why the use of cloth masks was not recommended early on?
Why do preachers say money is the root of all evil then pass the plates?
Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:17 pm to Whiznot
quote:Because they are hypocritical lying pieces of shite, which is a perfect analogy for those supporting lockdowns
Why do preachers say money is the root of all evil then pass the plates?
Posted on 8/25/20 at 1:22 pm to Whiznot
quote:Not money. It’s the love of money.
Why do preachers say money is the root of all evil then pass the plates?
Money is needed to pay the light bills and choir robes.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 8:25 am to Whiznot
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Why do preachers say money is the root of all evil then pass the plates?
On top of this being a tired and dumb joke, it also does nothing to respond to the comment you quoted.
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 10:39 am to Whiznot
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Why do preachers say money is the root of all evil then pass the plates?
That’s not what they say.
As others have stated it’s the LOVE of money. Or the worshipping of money.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 10:54 am to GatorReb
Back to back days in Nashville with fewer than 75 cases.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:04 pm to lsupride87
So....apparently that much talked about JAMA paper concerning heart issues is going to be corrected at some point after various twitter critiques concerning the stats in it. Don't think the corrected version is up and/or free at the moment.
Letter to editors from the authors.
Twitter thread to a guy that broke down what was wrong with the numbers. Link goes to a tweet that's right to the point...
Pretty good thread were he tries to teach some stuff.
The paper's authors or the journal choose to have numbers presented a certain way, which resulted in that "scary" headline inducing result (A three-group comparison between the CoviD survivors, healthy controls, and risk factor-matched controls. The survivors and the risk factor-matched controls are what we should have been concerned about...no difference in heart abnormalities when only comparing those).
I'm sure this will get highly reported, and the B1G and Pac-12 will bring back football...
Letter to editors from the authors.
Twitter thread to a guy that broke down what was wrong with the numbers. Link goes to a tweet that's right to the point...
quote:
Covid survivors DO have thingies in their T1. But it is JUST AS COMMON in people with similar risk factors who have NOT had Covid.
Pretty good thread were he tries to teach some stuff.
The paper's authors or the journal choose to have numbers presented a certain way, which resulted in that "scary" headline inducing result (A three-group comparison between the CoviD survivors, healthy controls, and risk factor-matched controls. The survivors and the risk factor-matched controls are what we should have been concerned about...no difference in heart abnormalities when only comparing those).
I'm sure this will get highly reported, and the B1G and Pac-12 will bring back football...
Posted on 8/28/20 at 8:35 am to WaWaWeeWa
Preprint looking at B Cells.
Sounds like B cell memory is there despite "muh anitbodies" disappearing. Though, I'm not certain how that bit about short-live plasmablasts becoming long-lived plasma cells being impaired fits in to memory. Sounds contradictory.
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We found that symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 patients mount a robust antibody response following infection
however, the serological memory decays in recovered patients over the period of 6 months. On the other hand, the B cell response as observed in the SARS-CoV-2 specific memory B cell compartment, was found to be stable over time. Moreover, the frequency of SARS-CoV-2 specific B cell plasmablasts was found to be associated with the SARS-CoV-2 specific antibody levels. These data, suggests that the differentiation of short-lived plasmablasts to become long-lived plasma cells is impaired and the main contributor of antibody production are the short-lived plasmablasts.
Overall, our data provides insights regarding the humoral memory persistence in recovered COVID-19 patients.
Sounds like B cell memory is there despite "muh anitbodies" disappearing. Though, I'm not certain how that bit about short-live plasmablasts becoming long-lived plasma cells being impaired fits in to memory. Sounds contradictory.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:13 am to Whiznot
Lockdowns doing work!
Peru passes another lockdown/mask wearing happy country (Belgium) for the top spot in per capita deaths.
It's almost as if interventions don't work for curbing the outbreak, but they most certainly work in spreading misery and despair.
(Second link is behind a Bloomberg paywall, might have to use an incognito window. Bottom line, the lockdowns have set poor countries back 10-years.)
Peru passes another lockdown/mask wearing happy country (Belgium) for the top spot in per capita deaths.
It's almost as if interventions don't work for curbing the outbreak, but they most certainly work in spreading misery and despair.
(Second link is behind a Bloomberg paywall, might have to use an incognito window. Bottom line, the lockdowns have set poor countries back 10-years.)
Posted on 8/28/20 at 3:04 pm to Sasquatch Smash
For you fellow diabetics:
Hospitalizations vs. A1C, with the change in hospitalization rate occurring at 9 or above.
Translation: keep your blood sugar in check and you’ll be good to go
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Hospitalizations vs. A1C, with the change in hospitalization rate occurring at 9 or above.
Translation: keep your blood sugar in check and you’ll be good to go
LINK
Posted on 8/28/20 at 5:30 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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We found that the antibody levels were inversely correlated with the DFS,indicating that they rapidly decay over time (Figure 2A). Follow up samples were collected from six recovered patients approximately 2-3 months following the previous blood drawtime point and revealed a significant drop in anti-RBD levels reaching to thebasal levels found in the control group
IMO, this means our antibody studies are dramatically underestimating the true number of infections. A lot of the anecdotal stories of flu like illness that was flu negative around Mardi Gras may actually be true.
If you read the pdf full paper it doesn’t sound like they found any evidence that long term memory is impaired but they do say more experiments need to be done. The wording in that conclusion doesn’t really jive with what’s in the findings of the full paper.
This post was edited on 8/28/20 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 8/30/20 at 8:27 am to WaWaWeeWa
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A lot of the anecdotal stories of flu like illness that was flu negative around Mardi Gras may actually be true
I have the immune sytem of a hyena, not bragging but I never, ever, ever get genuinely sick from colds/flu. It has been well over a decade since the last time I got near sick enough to even bother with an OTC medicine.
I got sick in January like I haven't been since maybe grade school and I'm nearly 50 now. 100% COVID symptoms.
If I didn't have it, I had another illness, exactly the same as it. At this point, I don't give a crap one way or the other
Posted on 8/30/20 at 9:41 pm to reverendotis
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By my estimate of Big 14 Comorbidity, drawn from NCHS database scrape for 8 Aug, I am projecting that 72% of Covid Fatalities were a 'pull forward' of those who would have died later in the year. Our 11 week shortfall in deaths of -39,591 confirms this track. 20 weeks remain.
We’ve been speculating this for months in this thread. Were the Covid deaths “pulled forward” a few months, which would lead to a drop in over all deaths after the pandemic?
Seems like we are seeing some evidence of that. People who were at the end of life (nursing home, long term care, etc.) who escaped the flu this year get a brand new flu like illness because they don’t have any immunity or a flu shot and that’s what does them in a few months early. I think that’s quite possible. And it would be another reason why you are seeing a much lower current death rate.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:15 am to WaWaWeeWa
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We’ve been speculating this for months in this thread. Were the Covid deaths “pulled forward” a few months, which would lead to a drop in over all deaths after the pandemic?
Nah, bro. This is the end of the world, Spanish Flu type scenario.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:06 am to Sasquatch Smash
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I'm sure this will get highly reported, and the B1G and Pac-12 will bring back football...
Man I sure hope you’re right about that. I feel like the leadership of the big ten is about the worst stereotype of aloof, self righteous intellectual who refuses to change their mind or be “wrong.”
Basically, a caricature of Michigan fans
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 8:10 am
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:35 am to escatawpabuckeye
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Man I sure hope you’re right about that. I feel like the leadership of the big ten is about the worst stereotype of aloof, self righteous intellectual who refuses to change their mind or be “wrong.”
Basically, a caricature of Michigan fans
Haha.
I was meaning for that to be sarcastic, but aren't there now rumblings about the B1G coming back?
Michigan's governor seems to be a huge roadblock to things up that way, though.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:11 am to Sasquatch Smash
yeah, i have heard they're exploring starting late november but there are some people/families/etc pushing for mid october.
basically the state of michigan - the governor and presidents of UMich and MSU - have been big impediments to Big 10 football.
the decision was made prematurely but what's even more frustrating is that 1. the conference had done very little preparation to actually play the season. that is to say, they were almost hemmed in by the fact that no one seems to have seriously considered or prepared to play in the new COVID environment. 2. no one involved the stakeholders like coaches/players/parents in the decision making process. even the ADs had little say and the reasons for the decision have not been made clear.
its really been embarrassing.
ETA to his credit Jim Harbaugh has been an advocate of letting the season proceed. wanted to give him credit where due because he's otherwise such a weirdo.
basically the state of michigan - the governor and presidents of UMich and MSU - have been big impediments to Big 10 football.
the decision was made prematurely but what's even more frustrating is that 1. the conference had done very little preparation to actually play the season. that is to say, they were almost hemmed in by the fact that no one seems to have seriously considered or prepared to play in the new COVID environment. 2. no one involved the stakeholders like coaches/players/parents in the decision making process. even the ADs had little say and the reasons for the decision have not been made clear.
its really been embarrassing.
ETA to his credit Jim Harbaugh has been an advocate of letting the season proceed. wanted to give him credit where due because he's otherwise such a weirdo.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 9:17 am
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