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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:48 am to
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Chorus


The future apparel of choirs:



("Family Guy" gag of Tusken Raiders (Sand People) as a choir.)

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All of these events involve an undue amount of exposure that's easily prevented in real life - outside of large sporting events.


Despite my feelings that we're beginning to get a great handle on things, capacity-attendance at large sporting events is something that I don't see coming back before the end of the year.


Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:21 am to
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Despite my feelings that we're beginning to get a great handle on things, capacity-attendance at large sporting events is something that I don't see coming back before the end of the year.



Amazing what warmer temps can do. We were very lucky wasn't full blown here till temps started rising and that many of the states with the highest numbers are from up north except for Louisiana which was a destination hot spot for Mardi Gras. What will happen this fall?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25958 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:40 am to
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What will happen this fall?


Maybe nothing. Maybe a slight something. But certainly you're hoping for DOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!


Are you constantly harping on the "fear of fall" because of the temperature change or because you're concerned about it coinciding with flu season?
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35087 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:03 am to
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What will happen this fall?


It's the history eraser button...
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:04 am to
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Despite my feelings that we're beginning to get a great handle on things, capacity-attendance at large sporting events is something that I don't see coming back before the end of the year.



The NFL said they'll just put a warning on tickets I believe.

I think we'll have fans in stands by mid-Fall.

This whole thing is a total crock of shite at this point. Early on, I understood shutting shite down until we got a handle on what we need to do to prevent hospital overrun. We have flattened that curve and know who is most vulnerable so they can continue to isolate.

OPEN THIS shite BACK UP.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25958 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:14 am to
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I think we'll have fans in stands by mid-Fall.


I think this is a possibility once they've figured out a surefire treatment plan.
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5657 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:38 am to
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Are you constantly harping on the "fear of fall" because of the temperature change or because you're concerning about it coinciding with flu season?


He's probably concerned about it because of the route the Spanish flu took. In the Spring, it was barely noticed because it shared a lot of similarities with the seasonal flu. It died out a bit over the summer. Then a mutated version came back in the Fall and that's when shite actually got serious and the millions of deaths started piling up.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:42 am to
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He's probably concerned about it because of the route the Spanish flu took. In the Spring, it was barely noticed because it shared a lot of similarities with the seasonal flu. It died out a bit over the summer. Then a mutated version came back in the Fall and that's when shite actually got serious and the millions of deaths started piling up.


Somebody finally gets it!
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25958 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:02 pm to
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Then a mutated version came back in the Fall and that's when shite actually got serious and the millions of deaths started piling up.


But why was there a mutated version moving around the world come the fall in 1918?

Aren't coronaviruses more stable than flu viruses?

Besides, it's more likely that a mutation will make a virus less lethal, not more.

Also...it's not fricking 1918.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29128 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:44 pm to
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He's probably concerned about it because of the route the Spanish flu took. In the Spring, it was barely noticed because it shared a lot of similarities with the seasonal flu. It died out a bit over the summer. Then a mutated version came back in the Fall and that's when shite actually got serious and the millions of deaths started piling up.
Given how hugely we overreacted to this version, could you imagine if it came back more deadly? I think we're quite a bit more tuned in to what's happening than we were a century ago, and we respond much faster (too fast).

But I don't think we need to be too concerned about it mutating to a more deadly version. Evolutionarily, the less deadly a virus is, the more likely it is to spread. Killing the hosts that you need in order to reproduce is not a great survival strategy.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14204 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 1:45 pm to
Get out of here with this actual data. There are feelings to consider.

Seriously, where do I find this online?
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 1:55 pm to
Nearly twice as many 40-49 year olds in Spain as there are 0-9 year olds?

They're going to need COVID v2.0 in about 30 years or there is not going to much of a workforce base to pay for all of that health care.

Edited: Age Range
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29128 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 1:56 pm to
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Get out of here with this actual data. There are feelings to consider.

Seriously, where do I find this online?
I'd like to know, too, because this "actual data" seems to be missing about 10k deaths.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 1:59 pm to
The data that Gummibear person used to create those charts, had only categorized the death data by age for about 2/3rds of the deaths. Specifically, the source he uses lists 25,613 deaths at that time, but he only has 17,248 categorized.

In other words, his IFR data should be about 48.5% higher, and puts it at 1.09%.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25958 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 2:09 pm to
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Specifically, the source he uses lists 25,613 deaths at that time, but he only has 17,248 categorized.



No confirmed ages for the remainder of those deaths? Test confirmed vs. presumed?

Either way, definitely an incomplete picture of what went on there.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 2:17 pm to
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Also...it's not fricking 1918.


An important point.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 2:33 pm to
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quote:Also...it's not fricking 1918.


"Also...it's not fricking 1818." - People in 1918

"Also...it's not fricking 2020." - People in 2120

The only guarantee is scientists and 22nd century TD posters are going to laugh at how badly we are missing whatever extremely obvious medical thing is the answer to COVID-19.

Watch it turn out to be leeches or something, and a bird mask wearing doctor from 1384 had it right all along.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 2:35 pm to
.7% or 1% really doesnt matter.

A virus with a 1% fatality rate, and much, much, much less fatal for those under 50, is not worthy of Great Depression levels of unemployment.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25958 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 2:38 pm to
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"Also...it's not fricking 1818." - People in 1918

"Also...it's not fricking 2020." - People in 2120

The only guarantee is scientists and 22nd century TD posters are going to laugh at how badly we are missing whatever extremely obvious medical thing is the answer to COVID-19.


For sure.

You know what was often killing people with Spanish Flu in 1918? Cytokine storm.

You know what is often killing people with SARS 2.0? Cytokine storm.

You know what they didn't know was a thing in 1918? Cytokine storm.

You know what they do know is a thing in 2020? Cytokine storm.
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