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Posted on 5/3/20 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77859 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

When you consider hypertension is an underlying condition it doesn't really mean much.
Hypertension is an underlying condition.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9609 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

Are you saying hypertension shouldn’t be considered an underlying condition? How do you justify that??


It seems to be a among the most significant underlying conditions for Covid effects.

I think the point the other poster makes is that when extremely common ailments like hypertension (which affect 1/3 of all American adults) are among the "underlying conditions" it kind of dilutes the impact of even saying "underlying conditions"
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79487 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

Hypertension is an underlying condition.



Not sure if it is still being listed, but it was the leading comorbidity for a long time.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64537 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:24 pm to
I mean.....I’m certainly not a doctor or a statistician so I’m not sure what the proper course would be I guess if enough of the population has an underlying condition that means the condition should be treated as Normal basically?

Honestly I want to say it’s still a unique condition and many who have it have earned it by living an unhealthy lifestyle so tough shite on them but I know that not everyone who has it is a fat POS so that’s not really fair and certainly isn’t the “nice” way of handling things


Btw I say this as a fat guy with hypertension in my family history so I know it could be me any day now
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:14 am to
Pre-existing condition data is relevant relative to its prominence in the general population:

Consider this hypothetical:

% of Covid deaths with hypertension: 50%
% of US adults with hypertension: 40%

% of Covid deaths with Colombian Rectal Scabies: 1%
% of US adults with Colombian Rectal Scabies: 0.1%

Hypertension would be the most common pre-existing condition by by far, but it’s not notable (only +25% risk relative to how common the disease is). Baws with Colombian Rectal Scabies though, getting hammered (+900% risk compared to how common the disease is).
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40251 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:31 am to
The walk in clinic where we live is doing IGG antibody testing ... I asked what test it was and they could only tell me that it was being processed by Lab Corp. Any way to know short of calling Lab Corp? Anyone have any knowledge about this? Thanks. We think our daughter may have had it in mid February and she's interested in taking the test

I found this on the Lab Corp website: "These tests have not been reviewed by the FDA but are being offered by LabCorp in accordance with the public health emergency guidance issued by the FDA on March 16."
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 8:34 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21139 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:52 pm to
It would now appear that there was community transmission in France as early as late December, a full month earlier than previously believed.

LINK
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 2:25 pm to
Just have her tested regardless of how it is done. For anything other than my curiosity my lady. LOL.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40251 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 2:44 pm to
She’s got some other blood work or be done on Friday so she said she wants to. She said she wants to be able to hug her friends and have no worries for anyone. lol.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:13 pm to
I am doing great btw. My owner cut back a lot of my mandatory overtime when he had to write me a weekly check of 2300 bucks. I have a persistent cough but I was warned that it might happen by my doctor upon my release. My coworkers avoid me like the plague even though we are all required to wear n95 masks on the job sites. The family is doing well. I still appreciate you guys supporting me when my anxiety was through the roof when I was hospitalized. You guys have no idea how much it helped. I would be crying myself to sleep and many a night you guys made me feel so much better and cared about.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40251 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:02 pm to
I've got another friend who was in your situation ... he told me that his fingers were turning blu-ish but he never went to the hospital nor did his wife insist.

Glad I only talked to him once he was better or I'd have driven 3 hours to haul him to the ER. He's better but still has the cough as well. He's a pilot and thinks that he got it flying. Go figure.

Glad you're better ... hoping we can have football so I can be there when my Tigers beat your Tide/Elephant/whatever you are!!!
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10918 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:03 pm to
Not sure but below is some info on testing from FDA and estimated sensitivity and specificity.

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/emergency-situations-medical-devices/eua-authorized-serology-test-performance
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

I am doing great btw. My owner cut back a lot of my mandatory overtime when he had to write me a weekly check of 2300 bucks. I have a persistent cough but I was warned that it might happen by my doctor upon my release. My coworkers avoid me like the plague even though we are all required to wear n95 masks on the job sites. The family is doing well. I still appreciate you guys supporting me when my anxiety was through the roof when I was hospitalized. You guys have no idea how much it helped. I would be crying myself to sleep and many a night you guys made me feel so much better and cared about.


Good stuff, Data! Keep it up, brother!
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4988 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

think the point the other poster makes is that when extremely common ailments like hypertension (which affect 1/3 of all American adults)


Until Merck rolls out the next blood pressure medication.

After which a blue ribbon panel of physicians whose spouses and children all receive tidy sums and cushy appointments from Merck will announce the results of their unbiased study advising blood pressure thresholds be lowered to 90/50.

Pontificators can then claim 3/4 of all Americans have HBP
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21139 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 6:46 pm to
Out of 195 female prisoners at Elayn Hunt Correctional Center, 192 have now tested positive.

LINK

Some 41 staffers have tested positive as well. When people talk about a 2nd wave, they need to understand that many vectors of transmission have substantial immunity built up.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14204 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Out of 195 female prisoners at Elayn Hunt Correctional Center, 192 have now tested positive.



Two thirds with no symptoms. What is it going to take for us to completely reboot our approach to this? It is becoming clearer by the day that this is everywhere and that the vast majority of those who have it don't even know it.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13107 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

Two thirds with no symptoms


Yet. We won't know how many are truly asymptomatic until the outbreak at the prison is over.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77859 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

What is it going to take for us to completely reboot our approach to this?
Will not happen.

People are too set in their support for this stupidity that they don’t want to lose face at this point.
quote:

It is becoming clearer by the day that this is everywhere and that the vast majority of those who have it don't even know it.
It angers me to no end that it took this long for people to recognize how wrong we were in our actions and how much needless destruction could have been avoided if we hadn’t panicked and viewed it rationally and logically.

Not you in particular, just in general.

If you really want to see the negative governmental effects of this, look at Maine.

The state is now on an indefinite lockdown.

They have had less than 60 deaths total and only have about 30 people hospitalized.

Pretty much all of society is in agreement that politicians are either crooks or morons, yet people still thought it was a good idea to go down this road.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20237 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Some 41 staffers have tested positive as well. When people talk about a 2nd wave, they need to understand that many vectors of transmission have substantial immunity built up.

Nursing homes especially have been absolutely hammered. 67% of all covid deaths in PA are from nursing homes. 50% of deaths in Europe from them. If we can get these areas under control we should be able to lower the deaths rates significantly even with slowly opening things up.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24876 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:43 pm to
The US IHME projection is now at 134K deaths by August. They’re factoring social distancing even more into their formulas
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