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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by LSUfanGuy13
Member since Mar 2017
432 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:53 pm to
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Lets open back up actual businesses than and tell people to continue minding social distancing and hand washing


We did that already, and look where it got us.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77890 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:54 pm to
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We did that already, and look where it got us.


No we didn’t.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112314 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:55 pm to
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We did that already, and look where it got us.

A couple hundred deaths here?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21139 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:56 pm to
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They shouldn't mention lifting restrictions until they have a relatively firm date. As the poster above said, if they came out and said "Things are looking better, we will be lifting restrictions very soon" or something to that effect, I'd wager the majority of Louisianians would take that as we are out of the woods completely and let's party.



It's unfortunate, but fear is almost a necessary evil in getting people to stay at home and not spread the virus.

I'd encourage you, if you haven't already, to look at the data from Kinsa. They make "smart thermometers." When someone takes their temperature, the thermometer uploads the data via wifi. They have over a million thermometers in use in the US and get over 160,000 readings uploaded every day. So, they can see where the number of fevers has increased, which has generally corresponded to outbreaks of COVID-19. If you look at the chart lower on the page, you'll see the total level of fevers in the country spiked in early March to over 5% of all readings, going well above the historical norms caused by flu, strep, etc. Since then, the percentage of fevers has dropped precipitously, down to 0.5% yesterday, less than a tenth of where it was a month ago. And you can click on individual parishes and see results as well.

This isn't definitive proof that COVID-19 infections are a tenth of where they were 25 days ago, because fevers from strep and flu are involved as well, but it's a tremendously strong clue.

So, we've likely done a tremendous amount to reduce infections down to almost nothing. You have to keep in mind that people who are dying now were infected at the peak. People who are testing positive now were infected 10-12 days ago, because they felt symptoms five days after infection, then it took them a 2-3 days to get tested, and then another 3-4 days to get the tests results back.

But at this point, we need to wait about three weeks before relaxing anything to let our hospitals clear out. Y'all, we have to be able to give those doctors and nurses working with these patients some breathing room. We can't have more people getting this disease right now. We also have to be able to open our hospitals so that person who's been waiting months for his knee replacement can actually get it done.

So, what Gov. Edwards is trying to do now is use this time that we have to drive down the back side of the curve really hard and fast. It matters a great deal whether, on May 1st, it's 0.3% of our population who is currently infected and on the street, or whether that number is under 0.1%.

And, as I said, businesses aren't going to open until May 1st anyway, because we gotta empty the ICUs and restock our PPE.

In the meantime, Gov. Edwards wants you to avoid that normal big family gathering for Easter that spreads the virus. Each week that goes by with our current enforced social distancing means that the percentage of people infected is dropping by half. If we stay home the rest of the month, we can basically eradicate the virus in the state by May 1st.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 5:58 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21139 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:03 pm to
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We did that already, and look where it got us.



No, before the shutdown, people weren't nearly as careful. Yesterday, as I was pumping gas, I saw an attendant walk out and disinfect all the gas pumps, and that's not something that would have happened before the shutdown.

When we open businesses back up, our individual level of care and concern is going to exist for some time. People are making new habits. We are all germophobes now.

That, and warmer weather, are going to help us keep the virus in check.

For stuff like college football to happen, we're going to have to find a drug that works, but we won't have to shut down retail shops and restaurants again -- hopefully every, but at least until next winter.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5147 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:04 pm to
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. Y'all, we have to be able to give those doctors and nurses working with these patients some breathing room.


Posted by LSUfanGuy13
Member since Mar 2017
432 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:08 pm to
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No we didn’t.


We didn't social distance and wash our hands? Weird.
Posted by LSUfanGuy13
Member since Mar 2017
432 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:09 pm to
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A couple hundred deaths here?


Approaching 15k deaths and climbing rapidly here.
Posted by LSUfanGuy13
Member since Mar 2017
432 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:10 pm to
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No, before the shutdown, people weren't nearly as careful.


Right. That's the point.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77890 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:11 pm to
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Y'all, we have to be able to give those doctors and nurses working with these patients some breathing room.
I think we will have done that in the next week or so.

We don’t need another 3 weeks.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10919 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:23 pm to
I wish CDC would get numbers in Illness onset/specimen date chart faster. Once they started to include specimen date on March 24th numbers picked up, but they are still way behind. I would think all labs would include date specimen drawn, but maybe CDC still tries for onset first.

Confirmed positives by date of
.... - Test result - Onset/specimen date

3/4/20 - 118 - 2,355
3/5/20 - 176 - 2,828
3/6/20 - 223 - 3,433
3/7/20 - 341 - 4,120
3/8/20 - 417 - 5,104
3/9/20 - 584 - 6,703
3/10/20 - 778 - 8,463
3/11/20 - 1,053 - 10,656
3/12/20 - 1,315 - 13,778
3/13/20 - 1,922 - 17,901
3/14/20 - 2,450 - 22,453
3/15/20 - 3,173 - 28,007
3/16/20 - 4,019 - 34,851
3/17/20 - 5,723 - 40,908
3/18/20 - 7,731 - 46,794
3/19/20 - 11,723 - 54,275
3/20/20 - 17,038 - 62,705
3/21/20 - 23,203 - 71,145
3/22/20 - 31,888 - 79,981
3/23/20 - 42,164 - 89,510
3/24/20 - 51,970 - 96,364
3/25/20 - 63,675 - 102,712
3/26/20 - 80,735 - 112,676
3/27/20 - 99,447 - 122,464
3/28/20 - 118,234 - 131,842
3/29/20 - 139,061 - 140,580

I hate posting columns here using mobile as they don't show well, but even though they have only updated for less than 160,000 cases. March 28th - April 7th is listed as in progress (with other dates updated as well & more recent days are very low as of now I just stopped when similar at current update numbers). It is showing an earlier but less steep increase for cases March 4th - 29th than test result numbers.

It's hard to know what's days are finished as even as they list days starting towards end of March & into April in progress they increased Jan and Feb totals from yesterday to today as well as more recent days.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:25 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112314 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:23 pm to
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Approaching 15k deaths and climbing rapidly here.

Yall should wash your hands more better
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:42 pm to
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Yall should wash your hands more better
here. This is such overblown bullshite going on now.

It's both sad and scary.
Posted by LSUfanGuy13
Member since Mar 2017
432 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:44 pm to
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Yall should wash your hands more better


You should've done it before we got shut down, baw.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112314 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:45 pm to
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You should've done it before we got shut down, baw.

Me washing my hands would not have helped wherever you are from having 15k deaths
Posted by LSUfanGuy13
Member since Mar 2017
432 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:55 pm to
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Me washing my hands would not have helped wherever you are from having 15k deaths


It would have.

It's the U.S. of A, baby. Heard of it?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85718 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:00 pm to
What in the ever loving frick is going on the last 10-15 posts
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13707 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:11 pm to
Based on wifes schedule, it appears we are gaining ground bed wise. Little lag in PPE, but that sounds like its going to improve in the next couple weeks. I think JBE should have maintained order for vents, get the PPE lined up at hospitals in hot spots and to cover any that would arise and rip the band aid off.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:47 pm to
How are we all posting here? I thought the economy collapsed and the country imploded?
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5643 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:59 pm to
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How are we all posting here? I thought the economy collapsed and the country imploded?


It's been an interesting thread. Some of us spent the early portion trying to convince people that this virus was a serious problem and deserved some concern and lifestyle changes. Now I guess we'll have to deal with folks who don't understand that maintaining the semblance of an economy by running massive deficits funded by an e-printing press is an equally (actually much more) severe disease and will eventually cause problems that make this virus pale in comparison.

Some people just don't see problems coming until it shows up at their front door step, and even then they rarely figure out why that happened. Generally a sufficient explanation is that it "wasn't my fault".
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 8:09 pm
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