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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:40 pm to
We literally don’t know the scale of the crisis or the fallout of decisions to be able call it inept.

I promise you what they did wouldn’t have happened in the US that quickly.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3690 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:44 pm to
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suspected coronavirus treatment exclusively at Jin Yin-tan Hospita


Really? So you show up to an er in respiratory distress and they tell you to frick off we don’t deal with that here? Good luck making it across town. Everyone with cold symptoms or diarhea are turned away?

C’mon man this is clearly about capacity.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46421 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:44 pm to
Their updates seem to come out between 7:00-7:30 am their time.
Posted by Shane4689
Wrong Way on a No Way Road
Member since Dec 2010
3150 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:44 pm to
death toll at 131 now. 826 new infections.

5496 total cases now in china

New cases of #Coronavirus in the Hubei Province:

Wuhan - 315
Huangshi - 33
Shiyan - 23
Xiangyang - 61
Yichang - 12
Jingzhou - 30
Jingmen - 28
Ezhou - 27
Xiaogan 101
Huanggang - 111
Xianning - 21
Suizhou - 46
Enshi - 13
Xiantao - 5
Tianmen - 11
Qianjiang - 1
Shennongjia - 2
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3690 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:46 pm to
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How much capacity do you think most hospitals have for patients that need to be quarantined?


What do you think happens to flu or even rhinovirus pts with ards?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53552 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:47 pm to
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Really? So you show up to an er in respiratory distress and they tell you to frick off we don’t deal with that here? Good luck making it across town. Everyone with cold symptoms or diarhea are turned away?


I think it’s cute how you keep projecting US societal expectations on an centrally controlled authoritarian Chinese government.

if only they could use the powers of a nation state to arrange transit....in like a truck across town.

You’ll probably need to put medical equipment in it though.


Call it a Amber-lamps
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:48 pm to
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death toll at 131 now. 826 new infections.


Makes you respect the Drs and nurses mores. They're constantly on the frontline dealing with this virus, working overtime while the rest are trying to avoid it.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10363 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:51 pm to
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I promise you what they did wouldn’t have happened in the US that quickly.



I guess you're correct. The US wouldn't have jailed those pesky journalists, doctors, and citizens who tried to warn everyone about the crisis nearly as quickly as China did.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46421 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:52 pm to
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Really? So you show up to an er in respiratory distress and they tell you to frick off we don’t deal with that here? Good luck making it across town. Everyone with cold symptoms or diarhea are turned away?

China is not the US and the people are accustomed to following very different government protocols. Patients are showing up where the government tells them to and doctors will treat or not treat them according to government mandates.

I’m not downplaying this situation but this hospital is about having an isolated facility for quarantined treatment that can serve more patients. So, yes, it increases capacity for treatment but it’s also about containment. Slackster isn’t wrong.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53552 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:56 pm to
*a-hem*




Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46421 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:57 pm to
The Chinese government are communist assholes but you also wouldn’t have seen the complete isolation of cities and travel restrictions here like you have there. Mostly because of, you know, freedom.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46421 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:58 pm to
Sorry. Volvagia is also correct!
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53552 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:00 pm to
Ding ding.

You don’t have to approve of their response to be aware in outbreaks, authoritarian governments have the advantage.

What if they didn’t stifle the story until they were prepared to lock down the region?

Then you’ll be bitching about the 10 million+ allowed to leave instead of the 5

If the same thing happened in the US, they’ll still be mulling the issue over with their lobbyists.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 5:01 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:00 pm to
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Coronavirus update:
- 5,572 confirmed cases
- 131 fatalities
- 1,109 in serious/critical condition
- Majority of cases in China
- 59 international cases
- 15 countries reporting cases
Posted by FeauxPaw
BRuh
Member since Sep 2015
1165 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:00 pm to


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What part, the part where you'll turn into a zombie?


The part where the umbrella is unfocused at the top, focused at the bottom.

The part where all the bottom letters are crooked as frick and unfocused.

The part where this "photo" is the only logo of the company on the whole of the internet.

The part where the company website is 404'd.


Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:01 pm to
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I think it’s cute how you keep projecting US societal expectations on an centrally controlled authoritarian Chinese government.


I think its cute that you are an apologist for a totalitarian Communist government that imprisons its own citizens if they speak out.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134967 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:01 pm to
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he Chinese government are communist assholes but you also wouldn’t have seen the complete isolation of cities and travel restrictions here like you have there. Mostly because of, you know, freedom.



One of the perks of a centralized authoritarian government that’s been engrained into people. Not to mention the Chinese as a people are more collective and less individualistic as a breed.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10363 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:03 pm to
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The Chinese government are communist assholes but you also wouldn’t have seen the complete isolation of cities and travel restrictions here like you have there. Mostly because of, you know, freedom.




I'd rather have a transparent government, competent policymakers, and well-supported medical professionals who don't have to rely on bribes to make a decent living.

Also, let's not glorify the "isolation of cities and travel restrictions." This isolation is only occurring because corrupt government officials refused to acknowledge the problem in the first place. Journalists have already well established that the regional government in Hubei had several weeks to act, and a variety of political pressures compelled them to pretend that nothing terrible was happening. And at this point, just about every medical professional who understands the crisis is saying that the isolation is too little, too late. Person to person transmission is already present in every Chinese city.

Anyone who understands the deeply regional politics of China knows that this isolation isn't being done to protect average Chinese citizens. If the Chinese government truly cared about its citizens, it would have blocked off travel to Hong Kong several days ago. The isolation is to protect monied interests in Beijing and Shanghai and convey the impression that the government is in control.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3690 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:04 pm to
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I think it’s cute how you keep projecting US societal expectations on an centrally controlled authoritarian Chinese government.



And I think it’s cute that you trust everything that government says.
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