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re: Construction Management Degree question..

Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:57 am to
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14034 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:57 am to
quote:

On a scale of 1 to 10, is this a "difficult" major


5

Only because of the physics and math requirements.

It’s more work than difficulty.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
2454 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:58 am to
Just from reading this thread, it seems like you'd do most of the work to become an engineer without getting the credential (and extra $$$) of being an engineer.

Can you just major in engineering & work construction jobs over the summer?
Posted by MrBobDobalina
BRo.LA
Member since Oct 2011
3155 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:59 am to
1550
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43135 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:01 am to
I’m a GC and obviously I know lots of engineers. I’ve hired three LSU CM grads. If I were asked for advice I would say to go civil or structural engineering, get your PE, then start or join a small commercial construction company. Quickest way to wealth while maintaining quality of life and balance
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68374 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:03 am to
Not difficult, give it a 3.
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2179 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:06 am to
I graduated in CM in 06. I know it’s changed a ton since then. We had to take 2 physics and business calc. Had to take accounting also. Great major and career if you find the right sector for you. There are a million different sectors in construction. I’m in industrial civil. It’s worked great for me over the last 18-19 years.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14283 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:12 am to
Waste of money. You can learn everything you need to know off YouTube now.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3055 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:17 am to
quote:

I always knew I wanted to fly


So you graduated and you're flying now? Air Force?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82795 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:25 am to
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So you graduated


in 1979 baw
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6855 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:54 am to
If the professor isn’t wearing a Magellan shirt, get up and walk out.
Posted by CurDog
Member since Jan 2007
28122 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:58 am to
My son will graduate in May with a CM degree. There have been some classes that have tore him up but overall he is doing great.
Already has a job lined up when he graduates
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
43759 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:58 am to
If you can't get through a CM degree, then college isn't for you. It is a fall back degree for failed engineering students.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37497 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Should be easier now that a minor in Spanish is no longer required


Keep pretending that it isn't.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40295 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:09 am to
You forgot to mention that they’re generally both working the same job for the same money, so CM takes the win here
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3663 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:11 am to
CM degree with a minor in finance would be pretty sporty. That’s what my son is thinking about. He will graduate high school this year.
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1189 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:35 am to
I believe that a construction management degree should require actual construction (hands on tools) experience. How can you manage that which you can’t do yourself? I understand that the office and the field are two very different places. But, in my 25+ years of working exclusively in the electrical industry, I can see the rapid decline of the quality and efficiency of operations- since the advent (and requirement) of the construction management degree.

You see, it used to be the case that the front office was all electricians that came out of the field (and a few secretaries) and learned the management skills. This was ideal because they understood us, and we understood them. They knew what was needed for success, and we respected them because we knew they had been where we were and done everything they were expecting us to do. There was a mutual respect from top to bottom, and, there was the motivation that if you did well enough in the field, you could earn your way into the office- where the best of the best finish out their careers.

Now we have a clear separation between the office and the field. We have exalted glorified time-keepers, who have never turned a wrench or held a screwdriver, and placed an arbitrary barrier between the office and the men who built it. I could opine on the conspiratorial nature of this operation, but maybe another time.

I said all that to say this-

I don’t question the validity of a CM degree. It is a completely different skill set, that you will not learn in the field. Absolutely go for it. But, get some meaningful field experience. It will not only bolster your resume, it will give you a deeper understanding and appreciation for the work you’re going to “manage.” And, it will go a long way in earning the respect of the craftsmen you will “manage.”

Just remember this analogy:
The construction industry is a lot like the sex trade- pimps and ho’s. They each have their own skill set. But, while ho’s might get less work (and probably make more money) without pimps, pimps would make no money without ho’s.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82795 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:39 am to
quote:

I believe that a construction management degree should require actual construction (hands on tools) experience


beneficial but not an absolute necessity
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40295 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:47 am to
Leave the tools to the guys who use them. Project management isn’t always supposed to be about that. It’s primarily managing contracts, schedule, and money. I don’t have all the technical knowledge that my superintendent does, but I’m a good project manager because I understand those things. The field is driving the bus and I’m just trying to keep the light green.

Eta: obviously you need to spend time on the job, but I’m just saying that doesn’t make or break a project manager per se. You will gain that technical knowledge as you go.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 11:55 am
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
2418 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:07 pm to
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Biggest mistake was taking it over the summer the first time where we covered a weeks worth of material every class. 0/10 would never recommend


I took all my hardest classes in summer and killed it. You go everyday and it stays fresh on your mind. Trick is to never miss a class and do 1 hr of out of class work.
Never ever ever under any circumstances, take a calculus on tues/Thursday. From Thursday to Tuesday you will forget everything covered previously
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2179 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Leave the tools to the guys who use them. Project management isn’t always supposed to be about that. It’s primarily managing contracts, schedule, and money. I don’t have all the technical knowledge that my superintendent does, but I’m a good project manager because I understand those things. The field is driving the bus and I’m just trying to keep the light green. Eta: obviously you need to spend time on the job, but I’m just saying that doesn’t make or break a project manager per se. You will gain that technical knowledge as you go.


Couldn’t have said it better myself. I have a ton of technical knowledge that I’ve learn on projects over the years. I knew nothing when I first came out of school.
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