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re: Construction community in a panic- I’m hearing ICE is Havoc
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:23 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:23 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
So how does this work? Does ICE just roll up and say “show me your employee paper work?” Or “hey employees show me your papers”??
Seriously I wonder how this goes down.
Seriously I wonder how this goes down.
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:23 pm to tigeraddict
How we will ever continue to write loans ad infinitum for worthless real estate projects?
I guess muhhhhh 3/2 plastic fence abode in a shithole country neighborhood isn’t worth uhhhhh billllion dollars.
I guess muhhhhh 3/2 plastic fence abode in a shithole country neighborhood isn’t worth uhhhhh billllion dollars.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:24 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
I’m not reading eight pages so maybe someone else has already said it, but skilled illegal labor has got to a point where it isn’t really cheaper than legal labor. The skilled workers figured out their worth. The difference is you have a better chance of the illegal worker giving a shite about their work.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:25 pm to tiger91
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So how does this work? Does ICE just roll up and say “show me your employee paper work?” Or “hey employees show me your papers”??
Probably just roll up and chase the runners.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:28 pm to tiger91
quote:pull up to job site with the sirens blasting and see who runs
So how does this work? Does ICE just roll up and say “show me your employee paper work?” Or “hey employees show me your papers”?? Seriously I wonder how this goes down.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:29 pm to Lima Whiskey
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We're the same humans our grandfathers and great grandfathers were. We have the same innate talents, and take this same innate joy in making things. The issue is pay. Illegal labor drove Americans out of the industry by undercutting their wages, and making it an unprofitable career.
My experience exactly. I grew up around construction and was a decent framer at 17. Got out of it in my early 20s because the dudes I looked up to who were running crews in their late 20s said wages were shite and getting worse with the flood of illegal labor.
Ended up getting a degree and going white collar. Made a good living, but being a carpenter was the funnest job I ever had. At least I still benefit from being able to build my own stuff.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:29 pm to Gifman
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Oh and FYI- illegals take half a trillion dollars in entitlements per year. Not anymore though.
Not that I'm doubting you, but were is that info coming from? No matter what you read, there are no illegals getting social security/ssi benefits (unless a complex case of ID theft), I know that for a fact.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:29 pm to RealDawg
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Literally the only people that can and want to do this work (along with chicken processing).
literally a complete lie
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:30 pm to DaBeerz
quote:should be 24hours
Said if they catch them at the border they are back in their country within 3 days, no more hearings or holding
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:31 pm to SuperSaint
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should be 24hours
They wait until they have enough to fill a flight up
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:35 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
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Everyone in the construction industry is in a panic
Nah. Only the pieces of shite. There’s plenty of construction companies that don’t hire illegals
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:36 pm to tiger91
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So how does this work? Does ICE just roll up and say “show me your employee paper work?” Or “hey employees show me your papers”?? Seriously I wonder how this goes down.
In the Carolinas it has mostly been ICE arriving at a job site looking for an illegal who has a previous arrest and was released, then they start checking everyone’s papers.
I’m 100% in favor of sending them packing back home if they are committing crimes. Blanket deportations are going to grind construction to a halt because the workforce relies on Hispanic labor to fill job openings. Even WITH illegals, there aren’t enough worker to fill all the jobs with the construction boom happening right now.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:37 pm to blueboxer1119
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for the record, I think it’s worth it to flush the country of illegals, but it’s going to have a massive impact on residential construction specifically.
Demand should be slowing down on houses with everyone headed the other direction.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:38 pm to crispyUGA
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Blanket deportations are going to grind construction to a halt because the workforce relies on Hispanic labor to fill job openings.
Scarlett O'Hara made it work...
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:38 pm to greenbean
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No matter what you read, there are no illegals getting social security/ssi benefits (unless a complex case of ID theft), I know that for a fact.
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by greenbean
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:39 pm to crispyUGA
Fixing to put a green stripe on my white F150 for shits and giggles
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:44 pm to crispyUGA
quote:sounds like the 'boom' was built on some shaky cards. Economic correction was needed if that's the case
Blanket deportations are going to grind construction to a halt because the workforce relies on Hispanic labor to fill job openings. Even WITH illegals, there aren’t enough worker to fill all the jobs with the construction boom happening right now.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:45 pm to Pfft
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Fixing to put a green stripe on my white F150 for shits and giggles
You haven’t lived until you’ve seen the ICE raptors flying down ranch roads to go grab someone
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:49 pm to SuperSaint
The boom has been built on unprecedented relocation into the area from other regions. Schools, utility/public works expansions, bridge/highway construction, medical buildings. My inbox is flooded with RFP’s daily.
Construction is not nearly as strong on the west coast or northeast. The south cannot build fast enough.
Construction is not nearly as strong on the west coast or northeast. The south cannot build fast enough.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:51 pm to billjamin
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Shits going to get real when hurricane season rolls around and people see what a roof costs.
FEMA should have billions to spare now that they aren't paying for hotels. SSA should have some surplus funds to chip in too.
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