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re: Connecticut gun controls estimated to have cut fatal shootings by 40%

Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54246 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:14 pm to
Ok, how about we play a game and say it's true, I don't care. The right to keep and bear arms shouldn't be predicated on the behavior of criminals.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20013 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:22 pm to
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Background checks went into effect and deaths started to fall. The red line went down.



Wrong. Red line was going down and then it kinda went flat in 1998. Try again.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92431 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:22 pm to
What are you for?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46427 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:23 pm to
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Both seem like common sense and good ideas to me.


This is the face of gun control in New Jersey
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:51 pm to
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Wrong. Red line was going down and then it kinda went flat in 1998. Try again.


When do yoy believe background checks started?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20013 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:57 pm to
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When do yoy believe background checks started?


Sometime into 1994 though the interim period before the NICS went into effect meant very little actual background checks were done prior to 1998.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15879 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:59 pm to
Seriously. There's no control in this "experiment"
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:25 pm to
This Country has gone to shite. Between the SWJs and Anti-Gun people, I have no hope for our future. Gun laws mean nothing to criminals...they don't get them legally.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:30 pm to
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It takes time for guns to work themselves out of the hands of criminals but eventually it happens and homocide from guns goes down...fact.


Well this is a load of shite
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:32 pm to
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It takes time for guns to work themselves out of the hands of criminals but eventually it happens and homocide from guns goes down...fact.



I really don't believe the person that typed that .....believes that

It has to be a troll
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6573 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:33 pm to
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So what does a guy in the army do from Connecticut when he's 18-20 in the Middle East? Use a knife?




I am pretty sure he doesn't have to buy that pistol and he isn't in Connecticut when he is in the Middle East.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:36 pm to
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A large caliber handgun in Australia cost -/+30000 on the black market because of gun control. If you have 30000 dollars to spend on a hand gun you dont need to be a criminal.


We're not in Australia and that is not the case here.

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it takes time for guns to work themselves out of the hands of criminals but eventually it happens and homocide from guns goes down...fact.


Fact? You are delusional.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:37 pm to
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What are you for?



LINK

I think you can have gun rights along with gun control. We need to stop clinging to a line written 200+ years ago as a end all on the subject. As for other beliefs I don't fit into a neat little box.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86143 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:40 pm to
We just need a lil time, you know. For those guns to "work" themselves out of the hands of criminals. I mean, how long could that take? Bottom line, we just need a lil time, all this will work itself out.

In the meantime, ban them all. Let honest folk fend for themselves against the criminals. Just for a lil while.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 4:41 pm
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:40 pm to
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I think you can have gun rights along with gun control.


What part of gun control will have an impact on criminals?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61886 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:46 pm to
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I think you can have gun rights along with gun control. We need to stop clinging to a line written 200+ years ago as a end all on the subject. As for other beliefs I don't fit into a neat little box.




There's nothing wrong with 200 + year old principles. We haven't become another class of human. Still the very same humans we were dealing with back then.

Truth is, we have a societal problem, but rather than deal with those societal problems, you and those like you want us to surrender Liberty as if that's going to fix the societal problem.

NOT WILLING TO SACRIFICE that. Take responsibility and fix your problems. Start at home. Value having a home... You know, the old fashioned way... With an actual mom and dad that instill values in their kids, and not excuses for their behavior.




Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:48 pm to
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We just need a lil time, you know. For those guns to "work" themselves out of the hands of criminals. I mean, how long could that take? Bottom line, we just need a lil time, all this will work itself out.


Reminds me of the drug laws. It took a little time, but we are a drug free Nation now.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25131 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 5:00 pm to
It's called the Constitution. Maybe we should have the same outlook on 4th amendment principles and allow unfettered government intrusion? Or can we pick and choose the ones only you wish to have effect?
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 5:02 pm to
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Or can we pick and choose the ones only you wish to have effect?


Already started.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 5:09 pm to
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What part of gun control will have an impact on criminals?



Better or more frequent background checks (more than once) for gun ownership. Possibly continuing education for owners.

Also, more of a consequence for lost or stolen guns. I AM NOT SAYING CRIMINAL CONSEQUENCES, but in a situation where the lost/theft proves negligent by the owner possibly a time out of sorts. Basically take a break from your ownership until you respect the right.

I in no way expect my opinions to be popular.
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