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re: Connecticut gun controls estimated to have cut fatal shootings by 40%

Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:09 pm to
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Preventing who?



Future criminals, insane people, children...

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You're the anti-gun guy, you should have some bullshite stats to back up your argument.



How the hell an I anti gun? Because I am saying hold people responsible for gun ownership?
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:09 pm to
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Say leaving it readily accessible in a home with a deranged individual.

Leaving it unattended in an unlocked car.


You're reaching and it's pathetic.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:13 pm to
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You're reaching and it's pathetic.


One of those situations was Newtown, the other was a poster that had his gun used in a murder. One teen shot the other after getting the gun out of his unlocked truck.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79910 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:15 pm to
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And how do you do that without stepping on the necks of those who would be legal owners? The background checks system currently means nothing so there is nothing to be gained by expanding it (see states that already require UBC's). Penalties to gun owners who are victims of criminal theft certainly doesn't work. 70% of them get their guns through friends, family, and illicit channels anyway.


Also, I don't pretend to have a magic pill that fixes this. To me, ignoring the situation and just blaming "criminals" is burying our head in the sand.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:15 pm to
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Because I am saying hold people responsible for gun ownership?


Yeah, people should be held responsible for losing their guns...it happens too often.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:16 pm to
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One of those situations was Newtown


Um, he killed his mom and took the guns...
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:17 pm to
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To me, ignoring the situation and just blaming "criminals" is burying our head in the sand.



Oh My God!
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:17 pm to
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To me, ignoring the situation and just blaming "criminals" is burying our head in the sand.


So we shouldn't blame criminals for crime??

Oh I get it, you're the type of person who thinks banning things that are bad for us is a good thing
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 6:19 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79910 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:19 pm to
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Um, he killed his mom and took the guns...



I would bet she, of all people, wished she had them locked up a little better. Gonna be hard to prosecute a corpse though.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20013 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:19 pm to
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the transfat holds true?



Not for individuals.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:22 pm to
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fightin tigers


How old are you? Just curious.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79910 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:22 pm to
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So we shouldn't blame criminals for crime??

Oh I get it, you're the type of person who thinks banning things that are bad for us is a good thing


So your kid leaves their laptop in Middleton and takes a smoke break outside. Comes inside and the laptop is missing. You just say awe shucks, it happens?

frick no, you bitch at your kid and report the criminal act.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79910 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:22 pm to
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How old are you? Just curious.



I'm not your type.

30's

And no, I don't fit the mold for my generation and upbringing.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 6:24 pm
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:23 pm to
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I'm not your type.


You never know.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46427 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:25 pm to
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So your kid leaves their laptop in Middleton and takes a smoke break outside. Comes inside and the laptop is missing. You just say awe shucks, it happens?

frick no, you bitch at your kid and report the criminal act.


Is it common for people to leave their guns in the library while they go outside to smoke? Do you have a criminal stats for this?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20013 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:25 pm to
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To me, ignoring the situation and just blaming "criminals" is burying our head in the sand.



Whose ignoring what here? You are ignoring the rather well substantiated fact that the absolute overwhelming majority of gun-owners are very responsible. Better than 99% on any given year. Criminals are in fact responsible for the overwhelming majority of firearm-related homicides. So blaming them makes a lot of sense to anyone honest enough to look at the numbers.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:25 pm to
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and upbringing


I see...you were dropped on your head.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79910 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:26 pm to
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Is it common for people to leave their guns in the library while they go outside to smoke? Do you have a criminal stats for this?




Byte Me leaves his at Dollar General all the time.


Honestly, you would be shocked at how irresponsible people are with guns.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79910 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:27 pm to
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I see...you were dropped on your head.


Maybe that is why it is so swelled up.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46427 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:27 pm to
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Honestly, you would be shocked at how irresponsible people are with guns.


Are there stats for this? If not, how do you know this to be true...
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