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re: Connecticut gun controls estimated to have cut fatal shootings by 40%
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
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And you didn't answer the questions....?
He doesn't have the honesty to answer that question.
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:36 pm to Street Hawk
Florida Violent Crime Rates have dropped significantly since 1990.
At the same time, Florida has seen their concealed carry licensees increase to over 1.3 million. See stats here
See how I can correlate the two when they most likely have no bearing on each other?
At the same time, Florida has seen their concealed carry licensees increase to over 1.3 million. See stats here
See how I can correlate the two when they most likely have no bearing on each other?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:37 pm to ReauxlTide222
I asked if outlawing guns would have any bearing on gun violence. I didn't say to take them.
I have no doubt what evidence he is copying and pasting about the UK and probably Jamaica or some other country.
Outlawing guns often provokes an emotional response with little actual in depth thought attached.
I have no doubt what evidence he is copying and pasting about the UK and probably Jamaica or some other country.
Outlawing guns often provokes an emotional response with little actual in depth thought attached.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:39 pm to Clames
quote:What? Y'all are weird. I bought a gun and I been like, shootin up everything I see!
So it seems we are putting VASTLY more firearms in the hands of the public yet the number of firearm-related homicides isn't following the trend you seem to think it should. Why do
I don't understand how how people can't see that legit criminals have guns and no amount of legislation will change that. Ban guns next week. Ban the shite out of them. The only people who will still have them will be 85+ percent of the people who already commit gun crimes.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:40 pm to Street Hawk
Why would anyone want to live in a country that doesn't trust it's own citizens to have guns, and shouldn't I fear a government who fears an armed citizenry being a checks and balance to their power over them?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:40 pm to Clames
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in 1998, the same time the NICS system (Brady Law) went into effect.
NICS went into effect in 1998, Brady Bill, and subsequent background checks, went into effect right where your chart begins. Sure the court battles, but that really didn't stop the locals from doing the baclground checks.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:43 pm to fightin tigers
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Outlawing guns often provokes an emotional response with little actual in depth thought attached
Consider the hypocrisy. The actual suggestion you make is only founded on emotion with little to no real depth of thought attached to it. Nobody who really thinks in depth on this topic would even consider outlawing guns a viable "what-if". Your obvious ignorance and bigotry aside, do you have any thing that stems from your own original thinking or will you continue to parrot the same 4-decade-old talking points?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:43 pm to Clames
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So instead of wasting your time on the mental masturbation of such an unrealistic scenario, how about you try and explain methods that do seem to not only curtail firearm homicides, but crimes of violence in general
btw, I think me and you are in agreement on this. I don't believe removing guns is the answer. I think making them harder to get/control is. Background checks and gun safety courses are a key to that, at least in my opinion.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:45 pm to fightin tigers
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NICS went into effect in 1998, Brady Bill, and subsequent background checks, went into effect right where your chart begins.
And what happened to the red line? Come on. You can tell the group.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:46 pm to fightin tigers
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Outlawing guns often provokes an emotional response with little actual in depth thought attached.
I don't need to think deeply about an issue there is no issue over and is a fundamental building block upon which our other liberties rest. That's because i love Liberty. It's that simple. Like saying I like to breath air and drink water. It's a no brainer.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:46 pm to fightin tigers
Dude, dead arse serious question. What would this ban look like? Who would they take the guns from and how would they do it? Ad what would the punishment be for having a gun after the ban?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:48 pm to fightin tigers
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I asked if outlawing guns would have any bearing on gun violence
See Australia for your answer. There would be less "gun" crime but the overall crime level would be the same. As well, there are less "gun" deaths but the homicide rate would be the same.
Even with the "ban" in Australia it's cut the gun death rate from 24 to 11% but hasn't been a significant decrease in homicides.
Fact Check
Funny thing about guns... There were massive numbers of homicides before them and there continues to be after they are banned.
You can takes the guns away, but you can't take away human nature.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:49 pm to fightin tigers
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I think making them harder to get/control is. Background checks and gun safety courses are a key to that, at least in my opinion.
Except all the evidence points to the contrary in the US. States with permissive "Shall Issue" CCW schemes had decreases in violent crimes at faster rates than states with No-Issue or May-Issue schemes. No state that requires universal background checks and mandatory registration has shown that there is a significant impact on their own crime rates when it comes to firearms. At some point you'll have to concede that your belief doesn't have a lot going for it.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:50 pm to fightin tigers
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. I think making them harder to get/control is.
There is your problem. You think law abiding citizens need to be controlled. You realize most criminals don't walk into a gun store and follow the proper steps to purchase a handgun?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:51 pm to fightin tigers
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Outlawing guns often provokes an emotional response with little actual in depth thought attached.
You could have kept this troll going for 15 pages of you wanted, but that statement will be the death of it. You outed yourself. The only people offering logical positions are us "gun nuts." The only ones throwing out stats....are again, us "gun nuts."
Your statement here is pure idiocy. There's no other way to describe it.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:54 pm to Clames
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And what happened to the red line? Come on. You can tell the group.
Clames: I just have to say that you are wiping the floor with this guy, yet he keeps coming back for more.
This guy should just quit already...
seriously...you are embarrassing yourself
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:54 pm to Street Hawk
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It raised the age requirement from 18 to 21
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It also required purchasers to apply for a permit at their local police station, which would perform a more extensive background check.
Both seem like common sense and good ideas to me.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:04 pm to Pepperidge
quote:He's trolling. There are plenty people on this board who agree with him and none of them will touch the thread now.
This guy should just quit already
My favorite part about these types of threads. There are only a couple things to take from them.
This guy is either so ignorant and such a dick that he won't take the time to read any of this and come to a conclusion.
He's such a piece of shite that he doesn't actually care what the facts are.
He's so stupid that he soaks it all in but can't understand.
Either way his views, and liberal's views of this shite, fall under something close to one of those. And it's like that for tons of issues.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:11 pm to Clames
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And what happened to the red line? Come on. You can tell the group.
Background checks went into effect and deaths started to fall. The red line went down.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:12 pm to ReauxlTide222
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What would this ban look like? Who would they take the guns from and how would they do it? Ad what would the punishment be for having a gun after the ban?
frick if I know, I am not for banning guns.
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