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re: Comparing Delta to Omicron: Cases, Hospitalizations, Vents

Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:01 am to
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:01 am to
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There is a variant of Omicron that's more contagious


The big question would be is if those folks who had Omicron (a ton of us) would be immune. I would think chances are good.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:01 am to
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Stop spouting this retarded drivel.


I don’t think there is necessarily a target audience, but anecdotally - I didn’t catch the Rona until after I had been vaccinated, and I caught it from a vaccinated friend. It was the equivalent of the weakest flu of all time, but still frustrating to watch the stupid arse mandates being rolled out time and time again with this nonsense being shoved down our throats. Meanwhile vaccinated people are the ones toting it around unchecked.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:03 am to
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According to the Covid estimator site, just over 10% of La’s population but I’m convinced that those folks either live under a rock or have some sort of magic blood running thru them that stops Covid in its tracks.


Wife has gotten it twice now and I’ve tested 4 times between both times and all negative. I’m sure I’ve had it and maybe missed the time frame I should be testing but I’ve never had more than sniffles besides the vax emulating the virus. I’m sure the percent that have “never” gotten it or a positive test recorded are similar to my experience.

ETA: As far as the virus moving forward, I believe by March or April this will not be a huge thing anymore.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 8:04 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:03 am to
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How is this accurate when Omicron has 120% more cases per day? I think you are WAY off on this statistic since your statistic would only be valid if case cases were the same.




I’m pulling the data from LDH. Also those are the total numbers. The case/ hospitalizations rate for Omicron is MUCH lower than Delta even w/o factoring out the folks who are in the hospital for other reasons but happen to be Covid +.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:04 am to
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Though deaths are nearly split 50/50 in a 50/50 fully vaccinated state. It was 53/47 un-fully vaccinated for the last week of data.


You have to back out the young population which isn’t dying of COVID wether they are vaccinated or not

It’s closer to 75% of people over 30

And of those who are truly vulnerable to death from COVID it’s like 85-90% vaccinated over 65

Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23045 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:05 am to
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Wife has gotten it twice now and I’ve tested 4 times between both times and all negative. I’m sure I’ve had it and maybe missed the time frame I should be testing but I’ve never had more than sniffles besides the vax emulating the virus. I’m sure the percent that have “never” gotten it or a positive test recorded are similar to my experience.


The site factors people not getting tested in to its estimate
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:07 am to
The shots aren’t stopping the spread. That’s what everyone should take away from this.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:07 am to
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Vents Delta Peak - 480 Omicron Current - 180 (63% decrease from Delta)


And I would bet a lot of these vents are from Delta variants

Studies show that omicron is not effective at infecting lung cells
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:12 am to
I would imagine all number have a high number of "with covid" and not "for covid".
Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1493 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:16 am to
Not vaccinated here and got the Omicron variant. My symptoms were migraine headache, no appetite and mild diarrhea. I lost 17 lbs in two weeks also.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32982 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:19 am to
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but anecdotally

Anecdotally, it's only the unvaccinated posters here telling their stories about family members being on deaths door...
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23045 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:25 am to
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Not vaccinated here and got the Omicron variant. My symptoms were migraine headache, no appetite and mild diarrhea. I lost 17 lbs in two weeks also.


That sounds like a net win for you
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:36 am to
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Not vaccinated here and got the Omicron variant. My symptoms were migraine headache, no appetite and mild diarrhea. I lost 17 lbs in two weeks also.

Very similar for me. I caught omicron on MLK. I had fevers all night, night sweats and chills. It took me a few days to kick it, then I lost taste and smell for three days. I did a vinegar, lemon, and garlic taste routine I found online to jolt it all back and it worked. I still have a lingering cough. No shots for me.

ETA: I had the shits as well for a couple days after the fevers.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 8:42 am
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6805 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:38 am to
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The data is faulty, could be admitted for gunshot wound, car accident, etc... and just happened to test positive on admittance, especially for Omicron


Is there any publicly gathered data on this kind of scale that is not faulty?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:38 am to
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The big question would be is if those folks who had Omicron (a ton of us) would be immune. I would think chances are good.

Oh I was assuming that in my earlier post about where the spread comes from. Everyone is getting Omicron. There is like 10-15% of the population who won't get it, and I assume a lot of those already had Covid not long ago and have antibodies preventing an Omicron infection.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:41 am to
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You have to back out the young population which isn’t dying of COVID wether they are vaccinated or not

It’s closer to 75% of people over 30

And of those who are truly vulnerable to death from COVID it’s like 85-90% vaccinated over 65

If the vaccine was effective there wouldn't be that many vaccinated people dying no matter how old they are.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138103 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:42 am to
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It will get in dem sinus cavities tho. So prep thy anus.

For real.

I've still got residual crud 3 weeks later
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138103 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:45 am to
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Who is left to get infected by the new strain?

Not sure but the media said it's even more contagious than omicron, but they don't know how deadly it is (which means it's way less deadly than omicron but they don't want to say that because they need a ratings driver)
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:55 am to
Everyone that I know that is positive is vaxxed.

Just an observation in my small world.
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:57 am to
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Omicron is good for us. Basically vaccinates the ones who refuse.


That’s a solid take. The issue is that we got lucky that omicron wasn’t as virulent as past variants. Luck being the key word, as it may not hold with the next variant.
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