re: Compared to H1N1

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Maybe they don’t want 12,000 people to die again?

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The few thousand people that die from this are gonna be expensive

Also, I don’t think the equivalent of 20 million have been infected yet.

I mean, you do realize that after enough people are dead to make comparisons about which is better or worse, it’s too late to do anything different, right?

Liberals aren’t the ones who closed flights to mainland Europe or classified HHS discussions on the virus.

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The severity of H1N1 resulted in less transmission.

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What? The swine flu infected between 700 Million and 1.4 BILLION people globally.

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Both H1N1 and H1N5 were worse than this.

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I would love to see the information that would compel someone to this opinion

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2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic:

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In the spring of 2009, a novel influenza A (H1N1) virus emerged. It was detected first in the United States and spread quickly across the United States and the world.

From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1) pdm09 virus.

Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1) pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age. This differs greatly from typical seasonal influenza epidemics, during which about 70 percent to 90 percent of deaths are estimated to occur in people 65 years and older.

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OK maybe it was in testing with 4 months and ready in 10. I just remember 4 months for some reason.

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That sounds about right for development/testing for a traditional style vaccine.

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Coronavirus has higher fatality rate amongst elderly and those with underlying conditions than the swine flu, so safeguards are appropriate. But swine flu was bad and the media didn't hype panic and fear like they are doing now.

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I mean I hope you're right, but data collected from other countries suggests more response is needed than what was done for swine flu, otherwise you end up like Italy which is approach 1,000 deaths just this week and the entire nation under quarantine.

If you lived through Katrina I don't have to remind you what that would look like here- so I think its prudent to avoid that scenario by taking strong steps.

Also, being as no one has a crystal ball, it is a bit early to be spiking the football and bragging that deaths will be under a certain number when cases are going through the roof here.

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COVID-19 is going to kill over 48,000,000 people in the US alone. Thats what Joe Rogan told me this morning.

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And I'll still never get Masters tickets.

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Also, being as no one has a crystal ball, it is a bit early to be spiking the football and bragging that deaths will be under a certain number when cases are going through the roof here.

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I agree with this but fail to see why the people who make that statement are the same ones predicting worldwide death and destruction. Why can’t we all take a “let’s be cautious, use best health practices and see where this goes” attitude?

I've been asking the same question as the OP. Is this going to get more people sick than swine flu and will we have more people dead?

For what its worth from Bloomberg
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Why was H1N1 allowed to spread around the world more or less unchecked, while countries are going to far greater lengths to try to halt Covid-19? Why did the WHO call H1N1 a pandemic but not Covid-19? Isn’t 12,469 deaths a lot worse than the 26 that have been attributed to Covid-19 in the U.S. so far?

That last one is the simplest to answer: Covid-19 is near the beginning of its spread in the U.S., and thus cannot be compared with H1N1’s effect over a full year. If the U.S. death toll from Covid-19 is only 12,469 a year from now, that will likely be counted as a great success. The legitimate worry is that it could be many, many times higher, because Covid-19 is so much deadlier for those who get it than the 2009 H1N1 influenza was.

How much deadlier is still unknown, but of the cases reported to the WHO so far 3.4% have resulted in fatalities. That’s probably misleadingly high because there are so many unreported cases, and in South Korea, which has done the best job of keeping up with the spread of the virus through testing, the fatality rate so far is about 0.7%. But even that is 35 times worse than H1N1 in 2009 and 2010. Multiply 12,469 by 35 and you get 436,415 — which would amount to the biggest U.S. infectious-disease death toll since the 1918 flu. Hospitalization rates are also many times higher for Covid-19, meaning that if it spread as widely as H1N1 it would overwhelm the U.S. health-care system.

That’s one very important reason governments (and stock markets) around the world have reacted so much more strongly to Covid-19 than to the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Another reason is somewhat more hope-inspiring. It’s that public health experts generally don’t think influenza can be controlled once it starts spreading, other than with a vaccine, whereas several Asian countries seem to have successfully turned back the coronavirus tide, for now at least.

Influenza can’t be controlled because as much as half the transmission of the disease occurs before symptoms appear. With Covid-19 that proportion seems to be lower, meaning that even though it’s more contagious than influenza once symptoms appear, it may be possible to control by testing widely and quickly isolating those who have the disease. This is one reason (there are others) the WHO’s Tedros won’t call it a pandemic. “The threat of a pandemic has become very real,” he said Monday. “But it would be the first pandemic in history that could be controlled.” H1N1 couldn’t be controlled in 2009, but was mild enough that this did not lead to disaster. Covid-19 is a much more dangerous disease that maybe, just maybe, can be stopped.